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notEnuf 12-01-2022 03:41 PM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 3540840)
Probably something like 60%FAE pension. 50% raise retro and pensionable with interest. No more unstacking. Hard min day 6.5 hours. Scheduling penalties of 100% owed plus interest. I could go on and probably need to because that likely would still yield a no.

Honestly, there are probably a not insignificant number of people who just want to go on strike to stick it to the company no matter what we get.

Agreed. See how easy that was.
+1 for CBs proposal.

DisMyGamerTag 12-01-2022 04:12 PM


Originally Posted by TheWagman (Post 3540615)
11% retro on 3 years

22/5/5/5

Positive space To work only

Dh match's UAL

18% 401k

5:45 ADG

rumors….

The money will pass this group.

What did they give up for psc and what to non commuters get? And 401k increase is good unless they’re stealing it for the minimum balance Bs.

Vsop 12-01-2022 04:17 PM

Anyone else get excited for the 5:01 (central) email? I should have known better, but I opened that with the anticipation of a toddler at Christmas. Nothing. Not a single word of the negotiations this week. I’m sure that email will come in a few days.

vyperdriver 12-01-2022 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 3540924)
I'm not going to publicly air that on this forum.

for what its worth I'd go with what CB breezy wrote, albeit demeaning you, but I like where he was going!

nene 12-01-2022 04:28 PM


Originally Posted by DisMyGamerTag (Post 3541014)
The money will pass this group.

What did they give up for psc and what to non commuters get? And 401k increase is good unless they’re stealing it for the minimum balance Bs.

If they give PSC to pilots at all, it's because they intend to give it to FA's. If they offered it up and said you can have 1% more in exchange, I'd take the 1% and I'm a commuter!

Tailhookah 12-01-2022 04:39 PM

Time to spool up the strike signs. My strike fund is ready to roll. I’m ready to pull the trigger. I’m done with the clown show. Let’s get released. Maybe Komrad Joe will save us from ourselves.

The Localizer 12-01-2022 04:43 PM

I’m a hard no unless they eliminate weekend flying

Tailhookah 12-01-2022 04:46 PM


Originally Posted by DisMyGamerTag (Post 3541014)
The money will pass this group.

What did they give up for psc and what to non commuters get? And 401k increase is good unless they’re stealing it for the minimum balance Bs.


Non commuters get nothing. Wah. Someday you may have to or choose to commute. Time will tell. PSC may or may not happen.

BC02 12-01-2022 04:49 PM


Originally Posted by nene (Post 3541018)
If they give PSC to pilots at all, it's because they intend to give it to FA's. If they offered it up and said you can have 1% more in exchange, I'd take the 1% and I'm a commuter!

I’m not for negotiating anything for PSC commuting, but what is your time worth? With the current policy, I usually go up for my trips 6 hours beforehand. With PSC that was down to 2 hours beforehand, so let’s say I lose 4 hours per trip of my time without PSC. For round numbers sake, if I make $250/hour (and I charge that with my side business) every trip costs me $1000 of my time. If you were to take a 1% pay raise in exchange for PSC and assuming you made 300k at Delta that would be an extra $3000/year. With this hypothetical you would be “in the red” as far as the worth of your time in less than a month (4th trip).

JamesBond 12-01-2022 04:53 PM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 3540979)
I already said I didn't like it. They couldn't allow a strike because it would cripple the economy and really had nothing to do with presents. Water treatment plants would go without chemicals to treat the water. There would be stunning fuel and oil shortages verging on a crisis. Farmers would see their products rot awaiting transportation.

And if you understood the RLA, you would understand that is absolutely is your government's business and has been repeatedly in the past.

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if it is so important, why didn't the all powerful government give them a few lost paid days off? Because that would break the companies? The whole thing is absurd. I really really hope the workers walk out. What are they gonna do?


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