Reroute review
01-08-2023 | 05:16 AM
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Just to complicate this issue a bit more I once had a flight get delayed on day 4 due to a dead battery. Was due to depart about noon. Instead we took the out the same flight number the next day. The original flight never operated. So instead of flight XXXX on the XXth we flew flight XXXX on the XXth +1. Different flight.
We got an extra days pay AND RR pay.,
We got an extra days pay AND RR pay.,
01-08-2023 | 05:26 AM
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Just to complicate this issue a bit more I once had a flight get delayed on day 4 due to a dead battery. Was due to depart about noon. Instead we took the out the same flight number the next day. The original flight never operated. So instead of flight XXXX on the XXth we flew flight XXXX on the XXth +1. Different flight.
We got an extra days pay AND RR pay.,
We got an extra days pay AND RR pay.,
01-08-2023 | 08:36 AM
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There's rarely any extra pay for reroutes within the footprint of the trip in this contract. Supposedly it's in the AIP though.
01-08-2023 | 09:17 AM
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In order for RES to get RR pay, you have to get back > 4 hrs later than planned AND an off day needs to be violated. If you don't have both criteria, then no RR pay.
If you see "RR" on your schedule (REG or RES), it's just a pay code that means someone needs to review the rotation to see if RR pay is due.
If you see "RR" on your schedule (REG or RES), it's just a pay code that means someone needs to review the rotation to see if RR pay is due.
01-08-2023 | 09:21 AM
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It does happen though. About 9 hours of 4F1R just hit my time card for the last trip I flew. I would say I get paid for 23 L.4.NOTE reroute pay within the footprint of trips about 3 or 4 times per year.
01-08-2023 | 10:18 AM
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There are several ways Reserve can get RR pay other than 4+ hours late/X-day interruption.
One is 23.L.4.Note (uncovered legs over 14 hours must go to Open Time).
Another is 23.L.11.c for an illegal turn time. It has to be a legal turn time at the time of reroute. Each station has a proprietary number, but a 10 minute turn ain’t legal anywhere.
One is 23.L.4.Note (uncovered legs over 14 hours must go to Open Time).
Another is 23.L.11.c for an illegal turn time. It has to be a legal turn time at the time of reroute. Each station has a proprietary number, but a 10 minute turn ain’t legal anywhere.
01-08-2023 | 11:06 AM
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There is a :22 turn published in a bid package for a trip next month. It's a fly in and switch planes to a DH too. No human with any operational knowledge could look at that and think it's a good plan.
01-08-2023 | 11:26 AM
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From: 7ER B...whatever that means.
I saw a number of questionable things in the Feb bid packet. Some teeth for the RCC can't come fast enough.
01-09-2023 | 10:17 AM
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From: 7ER B...whatever that means.
Saw a number of them like that in the 320 bid pack as well. Pretty much every redeye I saw is preceded by a 12-14 hour dayover. Some even had a double swap where you start early on day 1. Long duty day on day 2 to finish late-ish (after dinner time) for a short layover then early report on day 3 for one leg to a layover done at 8am so you can report at 10pm to fly a redeye. Very unsat.
DTW 320 6354 and L668 are good examples. If the suck. Lots of <12 hr layovers to boot.
DTW 320 6354 and L668 are good examples. If the suck. Lots of <12 hr layovers to boot.
Last edited by freezingflyboy; 01-09-2023 at 10:28 AM.
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