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GeneralLee 01-17-2023 09:07 AM

Scope Language out
 
New thread to discuss global scope separately. The info is on the DALPA site. It’s worthy of it’s own thread here.

Reading it now and will add thoughts later .

HandFlyorDie 01-17-2023 09:44 AM

After a cursory read….I’m not seeing how the company isn’t going to just claim, or manufacture, “circumstances out of their control”.

RockyBoy 01-17-2023 10:30 AM

No protections in regards to the Aeromex and West Jet JV. That’s a big fail.

PilotBases 01-17-2023 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by RockyBoy (Post 3573356)
No protections in regards to the Aeromex and West Jet JV. That’s a big fail.

There currently is no WestJet JV.

tunes 01-17-2023 10:34 AM


Originally Posted by RockyBoy (Post 3573356)
No protections in regards to the Aeromex and West Jet JV. That’s a big fail.

trans-border is outside of global scope. it's a separate negotiation.

Vsop 01-17-2023 10:54 AM

Why was narrow body flying not negotiated in this?

Myfingershurt 01-17-2023 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by Vsop (Post 3573374)
Why was narrow body flying not negotiated in this?

I think because it is meant to increase widebody jobs at delta. Fingers crossed it doesn’t have the reverse effect. Haha

Vsop 01-17-2023 11:08 AM

I get that, but as partners airlines switch to smaller aircraft to do transatlantic and South America flying the ratio will lower the total number of block hours we are required to maintain.

The economics of a NEO doing flights might not make sense compared to a 350 on some segments, but it will on others. In my opinion the fact that we failed to include what is an obvious industry trend in this global scope TA is a fail.

Planetrain 01-17-2023 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by Vsop (Post 3573374)
Why was narrow body flying not negotiated in this?

Are delta pilots truly worried about not enough narrow body jobs in our bid packet?

How many NB have the range to go any further than BOS-LHR?

Planetrain 01-17-2023 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by RockyBoy (Post 3573356)
No protections in regards to the Aeromex and West Jet JV. That’s a big fail.

Aeromexico (and WJ) still falls under old language.
Also not expecting Mexican wide bodies to takeover GDL-SLC or MEX-DTW.


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