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Quote: Exactly. Not a fan of indexed annuities or most of the non term life insurance schemes… but a premium paid by the company potentially makes it a different animal. Hard to make a real judgment until we get all the details.
I’ll freely admit I didn’t even know this was in the new contract. Can someone explain the options to me like I’m 5?
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Quote: Why, or why not, would you choose one over the other?
If you have (& intend to keep) the company-paid policy in any amount over the minimum ($50K?) to the maximum ($1.3M?), it's a complete no-brainer: switch to the GVUL. You have the same coverage for the same direct cost ($0) to you--but your imputed income (and therefore your total taxable income) will be less.

The more complicated bits are where information has been sorely lacking. In essence, it's a whole life policy funded by pre-tax money. Where it gets interesting--and where I'm not nearly smart enough to figure optimum strategy--is that your basis includes ALL premiums paid, to include those paid on your behalf (i.e., by the company). Any additional money you put in, only the gains are taxable--and those gains are offset by that total premium. This is the part where I want someone WAY smarter than me to analyze....
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Quote: Hard to make a real judgment until we get all the details.
I didn't realize so many people didn't get/see the email. I don't mean that as a swipe, it just means some of the responses make more sense now, lol

https://www.metlife.com/gvul/DeltaAirLines/
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Quote: I didn't realize so many people didn't get/see the email. I don't mean that as a swipe, it just means some of the responses make more sense now, lol

https://www.metlife.com/gvul/DeltaAirLines/
What info on that page answers any of our questions?
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Quote: I think both of you guys are missing the point of the question. This isn't about whether whole/universal is better than term in general, or on the open market. The question is about our new choice in company paid insurance, negotiated under C19 (PWA 25.G.10 if you need the reference). We get to choose between regular term life, or GVUL, and the death benefit is the same (at least originally). Why, or why not, would you choose one over the other?
You are correct, I was not specifically addressing the PWA GVUL option. Thanks for getting us back on track.

After reviewing the data from the links in the 9/27 Flt Ops email. It appears the GVUL policy provides the same death benefit amount with lower imputed income. On that basis it looks like a better option than the group term option. The jury is still out on the investment portion.
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Q1. Is the current company paid life insurance death payout taxable or tax-free income?
Q2. Is GVUL death payout taxable or tax-free income?

Could make a difference…
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Quote: Q1. Is the current company paid life insurance death payout taxable or tax-free income?
Q2. Is GVUL death payout taxable or tax-free income?

Could make a difference…
If you pay taxes on the imputed income, then the payout is tax free.

Edit: This website also clearly states that both the current and GVUL payouts are tax free. It also says that the GVUL cash value payout is tax free as well.

https://www.metlife.com/gvul/DeltaAi...parison-chart/
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Quote: I didn't realize so many people didn't get/see the email. I don't mean that as a swipe, it just means some of the responses make more sense now, lol

https://www.metlife.com/gvul/DeltaAirLines/
No problem. I have not seen the email. Was it in the company inbox?
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Quote: No problem. I have not seen the email. Was it in the company inbox?
It was an Alpa email, if I remember correctly.
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Quote: It was an Alpa email, if I remember correctly.
Didn't see an ALPA email. but it was in the Company's Weekly Propaganda Update sent on Sep 27.
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