Thanks for owning it Alan.

Why was it ok when you TA1 yes voters went against the vast majority of the Delta pilots and now your butt hurt by the No voting reps?

Bump. There were some good points mixed in there with the sour grapes, but it seems the MEC vote almost perfectly mirrored the pilot vote. If anything the MEC was more in favor than the pilot group at large so why the angst at the 14-3 vote? Seems pretty representative.

I didn’t vote yes on TA1.
Everyone has a right and a reason to vote however they see fit.
My butthurt is with ALPA flight pay loss abusers.

I was thinking the same. There were some legit points in there mixed in with grandstanding. Often times such long-winded missives are preceded by "an open letter to".

This is why you have to pay a premium for ALPA flight pay loss. Only a select few want to do these jobs, most of us were hired to be pilots. The FPL isn't the problem it's the money that goes to national and never makes it's way back. The frivolous spending mostly happens outside the DALPA budget. Getting GSs work for me and I don't think my reps made significantly more than me. We always complain about FPL and then the people who are familiar with the committees and positions. Nobody wants that job, you have to incentivise it and like any elected position it comes with the politics and coalitions.

You’re not missing anything. This thread is primarily for those who love to get down in the ALPA weeds. Everyone else is moving on.

You will always need ALPA volunteers on full-time FPL. Some of these jobs/positions are time intensive to do and not having the adequate time to accomplish them would ultimately be detrimental to the pilot group.

Additionally, ALPA volunteers on full-time FPL are already capped at 95 hours (I think that’s right). And if they go fly they don’t earn over that. And to go fly would take them away from their full-time ALPA duties. The full-time ALPA volunteers earn much less than their line-flying peers who benefit from being able to pick up green slips and inverse assignments etc. So I just don’t understand what exactly it is that pilots are upset about with this.

To be honest, I think there needs to be a discussion of how to attract talented pilots to do full-time ALPA work. There’s a lot of talent amongst the pilot group and in my opinion not much incentive to do ALPA work. How do you attract top talent to work on behalf of the pilots?

MOD Note
 

I deleted the Reps name in this case (post 3 above) and here is my reasoning. Using a Reps name is OK in most situations - they voluntarily ran for a pretty public position so it can be OK. But if a post makes accusations or insinuates questionable behavior I think it best to just list the position. Delta Pilots know or can find out who the person is so why put someone’s name in public in an unflattering light? Especially if they, may not know it’s out there to respond.


Scoop

Hire non pilots( ie retired company schedulers, retired pilots) to do some of the jobs with proper oversight. Not much different than DGS training instructors. They do the same job as line pilot instructors at a fraction of the cost.

stop it. The MEC members are not even remotely volunteers. They are being paid. WELL paid I might add. To call them volunteers does a disservice to real volunteers.

And it is a flat out lie to say they cannot pick up greenslips. That is complete bull****.