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Nantonaku 03-12-2023 08:00 PM


Originally Posted by bluejuice71 (Post 3606750)
Aren’t we still on the clock 30 minutes after our in time? And aside from that you’re losing sight these people are paying your salary. Take 20 minutes and personally thank them for flying Delta. It’s the right thing to do. Plus, we are supposed to stay until last person deplanes unless there is an operational need to leave early. Don’t use lame excuses like industry standard. There’s a reason we are not industry standard and it’s little things like standing in the doorway and thanking our paying passengers.

Define operational need. I see communications from the CPO’s bringing up this subject and yet they too fail to define operational need. If there is a fire while deplaning they try to make the point that a pilot should be there. You can’t have your cake and eat it too. A flight in Atlanta would never get out on time if they made us stick around during the turns they schedule.

Hossharris 03-12-2023 08:22 PM

Blue juice … tell us you don’t fly narrowbody domestic without telling us you don’t fly narrowbody domestic.

BusDrvr 03-12-2023 08:29 PM


Originally Posted by Planetrain (Post 3606021)
I’m on the other end of the spectrum. Pilots/flight attendants/mechanics/gate agents… each position needs 1 uniform. (2 if we’re going to do summer/winter.). It looks better as a group and has functionality identifying who works here.

The ultimate experiment in comfort was years ago when we did BCRF month and as an employee (not pilots) if you made a donation, you could wear a pink t-shirt and jeans ALL MONTH.

It was almost comical watching passengers come up the jet bridge and couldn’t find the gate agent to ask about connections, particularly international connecting customers that didn’t understand the fundraiser or speak English. Imagine the chaos of a bunch of t-shirts trying to corral passengers evacuating a jet if we had an emergency. On top of that, we looked like trash. Some can pull off pick-your-own-jeans day, some insist on 3 sizes too small!

Dress for the job you want. If we all dress like train engineers, expect to get paid like a train engineer.
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Train engineers still have a pension!

Baradium 03-12-2023 08:46 PM


Originally Posted by Tropical (Post 3606709)
I really hope Delta gives serious consideration that a staple will bring in many who were turned down by Delta, turned down the flow, or didn't bother to make the effort to get hired. Delta would be much wiser to just shut endeavor down, bring the 900s to mainline, and give the endeavor pilots preferential interviews. That's about the only way to weed out the large amount of undesirables at the top of their list who will never otherwise make the cut. If they were all given a free ride, what a slap in the face it would be to all who busted their butts and did all the right things to be invited in the front door here. It would surely hurt recruiting efforts doing forward and would be a mockery of the standards this company claims they uphold.

Since they were offered a flow already, that comment not only doesn't make sense but is an unnecessary attack. At this point the QC point is out the window, I'd much rather get the flying in house while there is a potential to.

LAXtoDEN 03-12-2023 08:59 PM


Originally Posted by Baradium (Post 3606792)
Since they were offered a flow already, that comment not only doesn't make sense but is an unnecessary attack. At this point the QC point is out the window, I'd much rather get the flying in house while there is a potential to.

How about we just don’t bring the 900’s in house and instead lease them out and send the rest to the desert? SkyWest and Republic need plenty of Captains right now. The ULCC’s need plenty of FO’s with 121 experience. Stapling a regional you already own and operate is unnecessary.

Planetrain 03-13-2023 03:04 AM


Originally Posted by BusDrvr (Post 3606787)
Train engineers still have a pension!

So do postal carriers. I wouldn’t trade.

overqualified52 03-13-2023 03:16 AM


Originally Posted by BusDrvr (Post 3606787)
Train engineers still have a pension!

Yes, Train drivers are awesome and a heck of a great job. The Railroads have deep pockets with great retirement plans and great pensions , unlike the airlines . Yes you can make a lot more money as an international captain at the airlines and save more for 401K, but after they pay for their 3rd wife it all evens out .

Speed Select 03-13-2023 03:19 AM


Originally Posted by BusDrvr (Post 3606787)
Train engineers still have a pension!

So does (did) the military. Being an airline pilot is a choice.

overqualified52 03-13-2023 03:26 AM


Originally Posted by Tropical (Post 3606709)
I really hope Delta gives serious consideration that a staple will bring in many who were turned down by Delta, turned down the flow, or didn't bother to make the effort to get hired. Delta would be much wiser to just shut endeavor down, bring the 900s to mainline, and give the endeavor pilots preferential interviews. That's about the only way to weed out the large amount of undesirables at the top of their list who will never otherwise make the cut. If they were all given a free ride, what a slap in the face it would be to all who busted their butts and did all the right things to be invited in the front door here. It would surely hurt recruiting efforts doing forward and would be a mockery of the standards this company claims they uphold.

Ok Tropical , how old are you , like 25 or something ? How many hours did you get hired at Delta with ? Under 3000? How are pilots that have 20 to 30 years flying WO Metal with 30,000 hours “undesirable” ? and how is that kind of experience a free ride ? Double LOL. You haven’t busted your but anywhere near that kind of experience . You don’t know what’s happened in anyone’s life to judge and make that kind of statement. The last 10 years of hiring at majors doesn’t even require a simulator evaluation anymore during interviews. I would be much more concerned about all the low timers by the thousands that are hired by majors with minimal experience.

notEnuf 03-13-2023 04:23 AM


Originally Posted by Baradium (Post 3606792)
Since they were offered a flow already, that comment not only doesn't make sense but is an unnecessary attack. At this point the QC point is out the window, I'd much rather get the flying in house while there is a potential to.

This.^^^^

And pilots at regionals have been flying Delta pax on jets since the 1994 and turbo props well before that. If there's a QC problem that's on Delta, they hired me and all my subpar friends. NWA hired connection and Delta hired airlink well before the merg.


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