Airline Pilot Central Forums

Airline Pilot Central Forums (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/)
-   Delta (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/delta/)
-   -   Timecards (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/delta/142463-timecards.html)

Jaww 04-17-2023 02:41 AM

Timecards
 
My third rotation this month and my timecard hasn’t been accurate yet. It’s Mickey Mouse stuff too. It says I was scheduled 21 and some change but instead they just give me 21. Are they even looking?

HandFlyorDie 04-17-2023 03:29 AM


Originally Posted by Jaww (Post 3625246)
My third rotation this month and my timecard hasn’t been accurate yet. It’s Mickey Mouse stuff too. It says I was scheduled 21 and some change but instead they just give me 21. Are they even looking?

They can barely handle notifying me for my RSV assignments…. I’ve gotten out of three assignments in the last two months, one for improper pilot awarded and two for failure to notify…it’s just wild. They are genuinely out of their depth. They need to start calling all the people they bought off for the VID and offer to double their salaries and come in part time to train and staff scheduling.

marcal 04-17-2023 04:14 AM


Originally Posted by HandFlyorDie (Post 3625252)
They need to start calling all the people they bought off for the VID and offer to double their salaries and come in part time to train and staff scheduling.

I'm amazed that they haven't done this in not only scheduling but every department.

Rooster435 04-17-2023 04:17 AM

Is it showing closed? I see those kind of errors all the time when the trip goes sideways but it’s usually fixed by the time the trip shows closed.

sailingfun 04-17-2023 04:19 AM


Originally Posted by marcal (Post 3625255)
I'm amazed that they haven't done this in not only scheduling but every department.

They have. Lots of retires working on a contract basis including crew scheduling.

Jaww 04-17-2023 04:23 AM


Originally Posted by Rooster435 (Post 3625256)
Is it showing closed? I see those kind of errors all the time when the trip goes sideways but it’s usually fixed by the time the trip shows closed.

Yea, they all showed closed. Had to call, wasn’t an issue when I called but there was no attention to detail. Disappointing.

Gunfighter 04-17-2023 07:03 AM


Originally Posted by marcal (Post 3625255)
I'm amazed that they haven't done this in not only scheduling but every department.

​​​​​​Should we do this for pilots too? A short requal and we could get some of the VEOP pilots back in the left seat.

Or is it good for thee, but not for me?

Buck Rogers 04-17-2023 07:20 AM


Originally Posted by Gunfighter (Post 3625312)
​​​​​​Should we do this for pilots too? A short requal and we could get some of the VEOP pilots back in the left seat.

Or is it good for thee, but not for me?



"But......but.......but... I mean, uh.............let me rethink my suggestion" :)

CBreezy 04-17-2023 07:24 AM


Originally Posted by Gunfighter (Post 3625312)
​​​​​​Should we do this for pilots too? A short requal and we could get some of the VEOP pilots back in the left seat.

Or is it good for thee, but not for me?

​​​​​​​VEOP pilots are more than welcome to apply at any number of short staffed regional airlines or as a first officer at Delta as long as they aren't over 65.

tennisguru 04-17-2023 07:30 AM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 3625332)
VEOP pilots are more than welcome to apply at any number of short staffed regional airlines or as a first officer at Delta as long as they aren't over 65.

I've heard that at least a few of our guys did exactly that, making bank at Envoy while cashing the VEOP checks from Delta. Kudos to them for working the system to their maximum advantage.

Gunfighter 04-17-2023 07:31 AM


Originally Posted by tennisguru (Post 3625334)
I've heard that at least a few of our guys did exactly that, making bank at Envoy while cashing the VEOP checks from Delta. Kudos to them for working the system to their maximum advantage.

I smile every time I hear about someone winning like this.

Tropical 04-17-2023 08:44 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 3625257)
They have. Lots of retires working on a contract basis including crew scheduling.

By the way, congrats on your retirement!

nene 04-17-2023 12:23 PM


Originally Posted by Gunfighter (Post 3625338)
I smile every time I hear about someone winning like this.

I heard a rumor about a married A330 Delta pilot couple that both took the VEOP and one went to Breeze as a DEC and the other went to UPS I believe.

RunFast 04-17-2023 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by nene (Post 3625469)
I heard a rumor about a married A330 Delta pilot couple that both took the VEOP and one went to Breeze as a DEC and the other went to UPS I believe.

They must not like spending time together.

tennisguru 04-17-2023 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by RunFast (Post 3625475)
They must not like spending time together.

Probably why their marriage is so successful...

RunFast 04-17-2023 12:38 PM

Someone want to check out P008, SEA, 14 Apr and discern why we’re getting an extra 07:00CR, please? TIA

CBreezy 04-17-2023 01:32 PM


Originally Posted by RunFast (Post 3625475)
They must not like spending time together.

It's not something I would do in my current situation, but you are talking bad about two people probably close to doubling their income overnight for 3 years. If they had kids and they were out of the house, they could both work weekends and see each other just as much as before but instead of making $500k, they are making close to a million a year. It would actually be foolish NOT to do that.

RunFast 04-17-2023 06:34 PM


Originally Posted by tennisguru (Post 3625479)
Probably why their marriage is so successful...

This person got it!😂

Gundam 04-18-2023 03:20 AM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 3625500)
It's not something I would do in my current situation, but you are talking bad about two people probably close to doubling their income overnight for 3 years. If they had kids and they were out of the house, they could both work weekends and see each other just as much as before but instead of making $500k, they are making close to a million a year. It would actually be foolish NOT to do that.

How are pilots always so hard up for money near the end of their career? Should I be worried?

CBreezy 04-18-2023 03:31 AM


Originally Posted by Gundam (Post 3625716)
How are pilots always so hard up for money near the end of their career? Should I be worried?

This isn't about being hard up for money. This is about taking an opportunity to double your income for a few years without any perceptible drop in QOL. Are you saying that's not something you would ever consider?

CoefficientX 04-18-2023 05:19 AM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 3625717)
This isn't about being hard up for money. This is about taking an opportunity to double your income for a few years without any perceptible drop in QOL. Are you saying that's not something you would ever consider?

Pretty sure being a new hire anywhere would bring a lifestyle change that is quite perceptible. But you’re right, money is everything.

CBreezy 04-18-2023 07:02 AM


Originally Posted by CoefficientX (Post 3625744)
Pretty sure being a new hire anywhere would bring a lifestyle change that is quite perceptible. But you’re right, money is everything.


If you don't need weekends off, tell me how QOL changes if you all of a sudden have to work weekends vs getting weekends off. That's probably the largest change in QOL as a new hire. That and Holidays. It's a short term sacrifice for a substantial increase in pay.

NuGuy 04-18-2023 08:37 AM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 3625781)
If you don't need weekends off, tell me how QOL changes if you all of a sudden have to work weekends vs getting weekends off. That's probably the largest change in QOL as a new hire. That and Holidays. It's a short term sacrifice for a substantial increase in pay.

I'll be honest. I work the weekends. That gives me the weekdays off, and everything is much, much easier.

CBreezy 04-18-2023 08:39 AM


Originally Posted by NuGuy (Post 3625835)
I'll be honest. I work the weekends. That gives me the weekdays off, and everything is much, much easier.

Many of our trips are actually better during the weekends. Some people's kids play sports primarily during the week. This is just proving the point that QOL is in the eye of the beholder. You may not be able to bid exactly what you want but if what you get is what you want and it comes with a substantial pay increase, there really isn't much of a QOL loss.

NuGuy 04-18-2023 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 3625836)
Many of our trips are actually better during the weekends. Some people's kids play sports primarily during the week. This is just proving the point that QOL is in the eye of the beholder. You may not be able to bid exactly what you want but if what you get is what you want and it comes with a substantial pay increase, there really isn't much of a QOL loss.

On a tangentially related subject (barely)….I was talking to my neighbor. Pretty much just an acquaintance, but we’re chatting over some beers, and I get the normal “do you ever work?” kind of comments, which is fine, and I roll with it and say “well, sometimes”.

Anyway, he was telling me about the travel sports his kids play. Holy cow, it added up to a lot of money. Well into the five figures. Kids, I get it, spend everything on them, but heck, my parents weren’t broke, but all I got for sports was the $5 registration fee at the local little league field, and an admonishment to “just walk it off” when that damn ball nearly took me out.

I’m going to step outside and shake my fist at some clouds now….

CBreezy 04-18-2023 11:51 AM


Originally Posted by NuGuy (Post 3625934)
On a tangentially related subject (barely)….I was talking to my neighbor. Pretty much just an acquaintance, but we’re chatting over some beers, and I get the normal “do you ever work?” kind of comments, which is fine, and I roll with it and say “well, sometimes”.

Anyway, he was telling me about the travel sports his kids play. Holy cow, it added up to a lot of money. Well into the five figures. Kids, I get it, spend everything on them, but heck, my parents weren’t broke, but all I got for sports was the $5 registration fee at the local little league field, and an admonishment to “just walk it off” when that damn ball nearly took me out.

I’m going to step outside and shake my fist at some clouds now….

Yes. Travel sports are a scam for 90% of the kids who play them. And I played extensive travel sports playing up. It's just gotten completely out of control..

TED74 04-18-2023 12:01 PM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 3625939)
Yes. Travel sports are a scam for 90% of the kids who play them. And I played extensive travel sports playing up. It's just gotten completely out of control..

…cus it’s not for the kids who play them. The industry is set up for the for-profit club dues, facilities fees, jerseys, refreshments, etc. Anyone who thinks travel sports is designed to help the athlete is standing a little too close.

hockeypilot44 04-18-2023 12:04 PM

I don’t disagree with anything you guys are saying. My kids play travel sports. The main reason why I put up with it is because it keeps them really busy. So busy that they don’t have any time to get into trouble. No drinking, drugs, etc.

PilotJ3 04-18-2023 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by NuGuy (Post 3625835)
I'll be honest. I work the weekends. That gives me the weekdays off, and everything is much, much easier.

Yeah, weekends off is overrated. But that’s me, I don’t have kids, and I like to have time to solve all the things that happens during the week while my wife works.

She can have the weekends for her own sanity, since I’m not easy to live with sometimes.

Meme In Command 04-18-2023 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by PilotJ3 (Post 3625952)
Yeah, weekends off is overrated. But that’s me, I don’t have kids, and I like to have time to solve all the things that happens during the week while my wife works.

She can have the weekends for her own sanity, since I’m not easy to live with sometimes.

Weekdays while she's at work is how I get to go to the range for just 15 bucks a lane on weekday pricing and spend 6+ hours playing xbox in peace.

Whoopsmybad 04-18-2023 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by TED74 (Post 3625947)
…cus it’s not for the kids who play them. The industry is set up for the for-profit club dues, facilities fees, jerseys, refreshments, etc. Anyone who thinks travel sports is designed to help the athlete is standing a little too close.

Travel sports is a bane. Always going somewhere, paying lots of $$ on that travel, kids never get a break, most end up with more injuries because of it or burnt out on it completely. You know, the opposite of the fact that sports are supposed to be fun.

NuGuy 04-18-2023 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by Meme In Command (Post 3625957)
Weekdays while she's at work is how I get to go to the range for just 15 bucks a lane on weekday pricing and spend 6+ hours playing xbox in peace.

Man, you gotta ditch that noob box and getcherself a legit gamer rig. One GS will set ya up. If you can’t build one, there are some pre-builts that are ok, but choose wisely.

Xboxes are like the Miatas of gaming….

Gunfighter 04-18-2023 12:56 PM


Originally Posted by NuGuy (Post 3625968)
Man, you gotta ditch that noob box and getcherself a legit gamer rig. One GS will set ya up. If you can’t build one, there are some pre-builts that are ok, but choose wisely.

Xboxes are like the Miatas of gaming….

...but the Nvidia GTX 1050 is fun at the LAN parties. The RTX 4090 takes all the fun away.

Meme In Command 04-18-2023 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by NuGuy (Post 3625968)
Man, you gotta ditch that noob box and getcherself a legit gamer rig. One GS will set ya up. If you can’t build one, there are some pre-builts that are ok, but choose wisely.

Xboxes are like the Miatas of gaming….

My millenial dream is to one day afford a house big enough to fit a small desk for a gaming rig. I know, I know.....dream on big guy

*cries in grossly overpriced tiny apartment*

NuGuy 04-18-2023 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by Meme In Command (Post 3625991)
My millenial dream is to one day afford a house big enough to fit a small desk for a gaming rig. I know, I know.....dream on big guy

*cries in grossly overpriced tiny apartment*

Fair enough

m3113n1a1 04-18-2023 03:21 PM


Originally Posted by Meme In Command (Post 3625991)
My millenial dream is to one day afford a house big enough to fit a small desk for a gaming rig. I know, I know.....dream on big guy

*cries in grossly overpriced tiny apartment*

Well maybe if you bought less avocado toast...

DryClutch 04-18-2023 03:27 PM

Adults play video games? :)

Meme In Command 04-18-2023 03:47 PM


Originally Posted by m3113n1a1 (Post 3626047)
Well maybe if you bought less avocado toast...

This coming from your username makes it *chef's kiss*

nene 04-18-2023 04:51 PM


Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 3625950)
I don’t disagree with anything you guys are saying. My kids play travel sports. The main reason why I put up with it is because it keeps them really busy. So busy that they don’t have any time to get into trouble. No drinking, drugs, etc.

I agree, if I added up all the money I've spent over the last 5yrs on travel Vball for my daughter, I could have replicated the out of state D1 scholarship she recently committed to as a Junior in HS. That said, the work ethic, dedication, and competition she's experienced over the last few years has been a great life lesson and keeps her so buy there is no time for real HS level trouble which as a dad I support!
Also, this years Vball tournaments have been fun and super competitive which is payback for a few years of watching relatively less competitve vball matches.

nene 04-18-2023 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by Whoopsmybad (Post 3625963)
Travel sports is a bane. Always going somewhere, paying lots of $$ on that travel, kids never get a break, most end up with more injuries because of it or burnt out on it completely. You know, the opposite of the fact that sports are supposed to be fun.

It keeps dedicated kids off the interwebs and focus on something to train for. I agree most won't see a payback, but the alternative "activities" for a teenager are more distructive in general. Burn out could be a factor, but much of it depends on the attitude of the club and training regimen. Some will use this venue to go on to play in college, but most will reach a terminus along the way.


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 05:41 AM.


Website Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands