This is easy for me. I would have voted no on a TA that made this mandatory. Thus, I’ll be opting out.
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying
(Post 3641688)
same. I can definitely see the benefits for those close to retirement. But with 20, 30, or more years to go this is a tough sell. It’s too bad I can’t opt out now and opt back in when I’m in my early 50s.
based off what has been published I think I’ll be better off with the cash. |
Originally Posted by Trip7
(Post 3641675)
Glad the Union made it optional. I'm out
I feel for new hires after June 1st that will be forced into this plan. Only reasonable scenario where the MBCBP is a good idea is someone close to retirement running their portfolio conservatively |
Originally Posted by m3113n1a1
(Post 3641696)
Will they be forced into it, or will they be given a chance to opt out in indoc?
Go read the email. |
Originally Posted by Rinaldi
(Post 3641694)
with just over five years to go….I will be opting out. I don’t see where the tax benefit outweighs the flexibility to do what I choose with that money.
totally understand you not wanting to use it though. It’s a guaranteed low return. |
This thread is proof positive that you should never take financial advice from pilots. There are numerous issues with the conclusions that most of the opt out folks are making.
It’s not worth debating people on the internet who insist on making big life decisions with an incredible lack of due diligence, but anyone on the fence on this decision should seek the advice of a financial advisor. There is a reason that the highest income earners all gravitate toward these plans, and it has nothing to do with their inability to beat the expected returns of this plan in their brokerage account. DYODD and don’t let an anonymous web board talk you into a very costly irreversible decision. I’ll also add that there are no doubt pilots who have legitimate reasons to opt out and will be better off by doing so, but I’ve yet to see a single example discussed in this thread. |
Originally Posted by Puddytatt
(Post 3641697)
"In addition, similar to the 401(k) auto-enrollment, all pilots hired on or after June 1, 2023 will be automatically enrolled in the MBCBP."
Go read the email. I'm curious, if the opt out rate is well over 50% for those hired in the last 10 years if the union will find a way to make it optional for new hires. |
Originally Posted by First Break
(Post 3641699)
This thread is proof positive that you should never take financial advice from pilots. There are numerous issues with the conclusions that most of the opt out folks are making.
It’s not worth debating people on the internet who insist on making big life decisions with an incredible lack of due diligence, but anyone on the fence on this decision should seek the advice of a financial advisor. There is a reason that the highest income earners all gravitate toward these plans, and it has nothing to do with their inability to beat the expected returns of this plan in their brokerage account. DYODD and don’t let an anonymous web board talk you into a very costly irreversible decision. I’ll also add that there are no doubt pilots who have legitimate reasons to opt out and will be better off by doing so, but I’ve yet to see a single example discussed in this thread. |
Originally Posted by Gone Flying
(Post 3641700)
I'm curious, if the opt out rate is well over 50% for those hired in the last 10 years if the union will find a way to make it optional for new hires.
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Originally Posted by capncrunch
(Post 3641706)
I bet if the opt out rate is high enough ALPA will miraculously come up with another opt in period. They probably got a portion of the management fees based on a predicted amount that would be going into the Blackrock account.
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