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formerdal 05-26-2023 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by Bo Darville (Post 3642054)
You are correct. Those are the individual contribution limits. However, the combined employee and employer limit for 2023 is $66,000.

-Bo

You are correct the OP thought the individual was 19...

Bo Darville 05-26-2023 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by formerdal (Post 3642085)
You are correct the OP thought the individual was 19...

Ok. Makes sense now.

PilotJ3 05-26-2023 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by BusDrvr (Post 3642071)
Talk about being locked-in to a poor investment vehicle. A million in life insurance with Delta not enough?

First, you’re locked in. Second, you definitely don’t know what you’re talking about. The idea is not using the life insurance part, is everything else.

Which again, you clearly don’t understand.

Gunfighter 05-26-2023 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by PilotJ3 (Post 3642094)
First, you’re locked in. Second, you definitely don’t know what you’re talking about. The idea is not using the life insurance part, is everything else.

Which again, you clearly don’t understand.

There can be a place for high cash value participating life insurance with a mutual insurance company. Not everyone reading this board is a student of Nelson Nash. Doug Andrew also has some interesting content. I liked the book Entitlement Abolition. Are there any pointers for someone just beginning the search?

Planetrain 05-26-2023 01:58 PM

-I dropped my 401k contributions to 0% last night. That will force only company contributions to fill the 401k from here out and will buy some time on hitting “401k Cash” to figure out how the MBCBP will work. I can raise the contributions when we know more info.

-The ERISA protection has some value. It can’t be pierced by creditors ie OJ Simpson NFL retirement. Can’t same the same about real estate or brokerage accounts.

Planetrain 05-26-2023 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by Trip7 (Post 3641858)
Not sure why you believe 12% is some sort of unachievable return for pilots. To be in the realm of Warren Buffett a pilot will need to average well in excess of 20% returns over a career. Please don't quote Berkshire Hathaway recent returns from their multi billion dollar operation that has far less options with that sum of money vs a small individual investor.

Warren Buffett as a small individual investor achieved 50% IRR. Peter Lynch achieved 29% IRR over 10 years managing the Fidelity Magellan Fund. Joe Greenblatt averaged 49% returns managing the Gotham Partnership. Lynch and Greenblatt both retired when their funds grew to big to generate excess return from the S&P 500. All of them have wrote books detailing their investment process in a simple, easy to understand format. All say the same thing, investing is not difficult, does not require some sort of high IQ, just basic math and emotional stability.


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I know trip, why can’t more people make 20-50% returns EVERY year? So easy! Step 1 read the books, step 2 profits!

PilotJ3 05-26-2023 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by Gunfighter (Post 3642102)
There can be a place for high cash value participating life insurance with a mutual insurance company. Not everyone reading this board is a student of Nelson Nash. Doug Andrew also has some interesting content. I liked the book Entitlement Abolition. Are there any pointers for someone just beginning the search?

I used https://paradigmlife.net

So far mine it’s been performing better than the illustration.

If everything goes according to plan. Between this, 401k and investments, we are set.

Gunfighter 05-26-2023 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by Planetrain (Post 3642103)
-I dropped my 401k contributions to 0% last night. That will force only company contributions to fill the 401k from here out and will buy some time on hitting “401k Cash” to figure out how the MBCBP will work. I can raise the contributions when we know more info.

-The ERISA protection has some value. It can’t be pierced by creditors ie OJ Simpson NFL retirement. Can’t same the same about real estate or brokerage accounts.

Just a reminder that 330k income also triggers DC excess, it isn't just the contribution limit.

hockeypilot44 05-26-2023 02:24 PM

I’m opting out. Why don’t we just change the ALPA by-laws to stop taking dues out the retirement money. Didn’t it used to be that way? Isn’t Ambrosi national presidenf? This seems like a lot of work to avoid dues. I want my money. I don’t trust anything not in my name.

Trip7 05-26-2023 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by Planetrain (Post 3642107)
https://media.tenor.com/3LFtAl3BnVYA...namite-ugh.gif

I know trip, why can’t more people make 20-50% returns EVERY year? So easy! Step 1 read the books, step 2 profits!

Because most people don't understand basic financial let alone investing. Financial Literacy needs to be implemented in high schools. Moreover, most people are emotional rather than analytical towards investing, led to believe by Wall Street that investing is difficult and best left to the professionals, for a hefty fee while still under performing indexes.


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