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SideStickMonkey 09-18-2023 10:07 AM


Originally Posted by 170Till5 (Post 3698315)
Uniform shop said they’re working on getting an all weather jacket for pilots. Didn’t allude to anything soon though but it’s a work in progress

Are they inventing one for scratch?

God forbid just find one publicly available and put a widget on it.

Lifeisgood 09-18-2023 01:42 PM


Originally Posted by Gunfighter (Post 3698537)
ATL office dwellers are in charge of uniforms for DTW and MSP pilots. What could go wrong?

not even close. testers are all across the system.

notEnuf 09-18-2023 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by Lifeisgood (Post 3698612)
not even close. testers are all across the system.

So how do you wear test the new garments? Just wear them for a few trips? What is being done? I'm genuinely curious.

CBreezy 09-18-2023 02:15 PM


Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 3698620)
So how do you wear test the new garments? Just wear them for a few trips? What is being done? I'm genuinely curious.

They've been wear testing them for at least 6 months or more.

notEnuf 09-18-2023 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 3698623)
They've been wear testing them for at least 6 months or more.

Ok, but what kind of input do they have? Design or redesign input? Materials, button style and placement? Has anything changed since they first started?

I haven't seen anyone wearing a different uniform, have you? Anybody? Probably an ATL thing but are they out in the operation?

Gunfighter 09-18-2023 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by Lifeisgood (Post 3698612)
not even close. testers are all across the system.

Testers are not in charge of the program, ATL office dwellers are. Give a MSP 320 FO control of the outer garment and we'd have a solution by the end of the week.

GogglesPisano 09-18-2023 04:23 PM

Do Testers come before or after the Tiger Team?

FangsF15 09-18-2023 04:58 PM


Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 3698627)
Ok, but what kind of input do they have? Design or redesign input? Materials, button style and placement? Has anything changed since they first started?

I haven't seen anyone wearing a different uniform, have you? Anybody? Probably an ATL thing but are they out in the operation?

I know they made a few changes to the jackets based on feedback and testers already. They moved the "ghost" buttons on the double breasted off the nipples, changed the slit in the back, and the liner to include some internal pockets at least. I'm sure there are many others, but have no idea who to ask other than a shotgun question on skynet.

I totally understand taking some time to get that kind of feedback, and it taking half a year or more to get that right, tested, second round of feedback, etc.

What is unbelievable is the second tier changes, the actual functional ones like an outer jacket to solve the "Northface" problem, not being ready for this winter. Unsat. It's like the office responsible can only handle one thing at a time.

Hotel Kilo 09-19-2023 12:24 PM

Not that I will ever wear the stupid hat again - but PB did say there would be a new "commuter friendly" hat. Has anyone seen a prototype of said hat?

Abouttime2fish 09-19-2023 01:56 PM


Originally Posted by FangsF15 (Post 3698669)
I know they made a few changes to the jackets based on feedback and testers already. They moved the "ghost" buttons on the double breasted off the nipples, changed the slit in the back, and the liner to include some internal pockets at least. I'm sure there are many others, but have no idea who to ask other than a shotgun question on skynet.

I totally understand taking some time to get that kind of feedback, and it taking half a year or more to get that right, tested, second round of feedback, etc.

What is unbelievable is the second tier changes, the actual functional ones like an outer jacket to solve the "Northface" problem, not being ready for this winter. Unsat. It's like the office responsible can only handle one thing at a time.

Did a Uniform fitting today between block in and commute flight. Took 10 minutes. The double breasted actually wears/feels almost like a single breasted. Our current jackets you bottom 3 buttons. New one you just do the bottom 2 (which was weird putting on at first) and that top one is not used. I was pleasantly surprised.

color wise, I was wearing my current uniform pants…. I couldn’t see any color difference, at least not in crew outfitters lighting. I don’t think anyone will know, unless yours are pleated as I did not see that as an option.


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