Pay bump.
12-27-2023, 01:19 PM
#51
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Joined APC: Dec 2022
Posts: 6
Originally Posted by RAH RAH REE
I can't believe LABOR day doesn't get holiday pay. What a slap in the face to the most important LABOR group at the company.
Yes it's ironic we don't get paid extra on Labor day. But this kind of comment really rubs me, and I'm sure a few others, the wrong way.
12-27-2023, 01:36 PM
#52
Can’t find crew pickup
Joined APC: Jun 2021
Posts: 2,000
Originally Posted by AvidBW
I don't post here very often but felt the need to. It's this type of mentality that makes people hate pilots and think we're all so arrogant. We're the most important? Don't think you'd be going very far without any fuel in the wings. Or our passengers might want to fly a different airline if their bags don't show up at their destination. Good luck evacuating someone out the back in row 36E.
Yes it's ironic we don't get paid extra on Labor day. But this kind of comment really rubs me, and I'm sure a few others, the wrong way.
Yes it's ironic we don't get paid extra on Labor day. But this kind of comment really rubs me, and I'm sure a few others, the wrong way.
12-27-2023, 03:17 PM
#53
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2015
Position: stake holder ir.delta.com
Posts: 10,051
There's always a double standard. Pilots don't get PTO and had no (but now have a few but still less) holidays that pay extra. Profit sharing is the best example. But, pilots negotiated it and everyone gets it. Not to mention the cut that pilots didn't take that resulted in the non-cons getting the larger amount back and keeping the 18% pay increase that was suposed to replace it. I'm glad I am working under a PWA and our class of workers need a union to defend profesional standards and hold the company to account because we are not an at will employee given the industry's seniority system. I think the double standard is a management tool employed by the company to keep unions out and non-cons questioning the disparity.
12-28-2023, 05:55 AM
#56
Bus driver
Joined APC: Aug 2007
Posts: 831
Originally Posted by 170Till5
not everyone drinks the kool-aid
12-28-2023, 03:48 PM
#57
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2009
Position: 350A
Posts: 425
Originally Posted by 170Till5
yup, this 5:15 / holiday is not worth getting out of bed for..
12-28-2023, 06:28 PM
#58
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Joined APC: May 2022
Posts: 183
Originally Posted by Khantahr
Pretty much everybody? I don't know why we left them out, it was quite shortsighted.
And a contract is much more than a pay rate. I’d bet my entire 401k that block hour for block hour, pilots at Delta make substantially more than those at SWA, even with their new “industry leading” rates.
And make no mistake, I’m very happy for them and pleased they held out long enough to end up where they did. But context matters a lot, and I highly doubt there are many 737 pilots at Delta who would trade places with a SWA pilot.
12-29-2023, 03:02 AM
#59
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Joined APC: Jul 2006
Posts: 5,568
Originally Posted by First Break
It’s nice to go last when other airlines change the market for you.
And a contract is much more than a pay rate. I’d bet my entire 401k that block hour for block hour, pilots at Delta make substantially more than those at SWA, even with their new “industry leading” rates.
And a contract is much more than a pay rate. I’d bet my entire 401k that block hour for block hour, pilots at Delta make substantially more than those at SWA, even with their new “industry leading” rates.
You've got that part right. Over on the pay thread, some of the block times SWA guys are posting is more than I've flown in the past 2-3 years!
12-29-2023, 07:55 PM
#60
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Joined APC: Nov 2013
Position: A320 Left seat
Posts: 2,580
Originally Posted by FangsF15
No, 3.E would be triggered. It would simply result in the rate being the same as the rest of the WB pay band. I’m sure some will say that’s defeatest.
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