Are you asking about the 757?

 

not specifically but that’s definitely one im considering. Feel like it would also be cool to get that type before it goes extinct but moreso 330.

 

Ok I just ask more to see what the rush is. The 757, 767, and 717 are all slated to go away sometime in the early 2030s, but other than that we’ll be flying some variant of every other current fleet for 20-30 more years. So there’s no need to jump into a bad situation right now to chase a plant when you can jump into a better situation with better seniority at any point down the road.

 

I wanted to try WB life out too. I chose to commute to NYC to achieve that. I don’t regret it at all. That was with 3 little one at home. If you think you might regret not doing it, then you surely will. Successful commuting is about your mindset and it’s not that bad especially to a WB seat.

 

try it and see. Only you can judge whether it’s worth chasing the new equipment just to drive to work. Fwiw most of us who have been in your shoes conclude after about 6 months that the commute isn't worth it.

back on topic: guessing the 07 wba wall continues to crumble in dtw and nyc this fall with 14ers possibly in Feb in ny. Anybody willing to take an over/under on nyc350 category opening? Feb 2026? Oct 2025? Maybe bos330 will provide some clues.

 

The last few AEs just aren’t generating cracks in the wall. There may be a handful of WBAs over 4,000, but your seniority really needs to be below that 4,000 line to get a WBA. (This is also the line to consistently hold 7ER Europe trips on your line) 2014s are nowhere near that line- that’s like 2-3 years if we retire 500/pilots a year. Definitely won’t happen by February. Unless there is meaningful 339/350 deliveries, that 4,000 line holds. I thought we were supposed to retire 10 767s after summer. Looking at the 7ER bid packets, that doesn’t appear to be the case yet. I don’t know any inside baseball, but I’m just not seeing big-Airbus being incremental transoceanic growth yet. For fall WB deliveries, those WBA pilots should be expecting training from this AE or next; August’s conversion window ends all the way out in January. The AE postings so far are steady and small. Additionally, I’m seeing more and more sub-5,000 pilots updating their bids to WBA. Going to be awhile.

 

The questions we need answered:

-When does TATL flying on the ER in NYC wind down
-Does it get replaced solely with 330 flying
-Does BOS staffing come from NYC 330 or ER (I think its half and half, but we will see; also if BOS 320 happens that will also impact the timeline)

The bigger NYC330 gets, the sooner it goes to '14 hires

IF NYC350 opens ('26 at the earliest IMHO), its game on for the 2014 crowd

 

Bid the aircraft for types of trips, schedules and pay. The airliners themselves are all the same, big tubes flown in the heart of the envelope. 99.9% of the time you're on autopilot anyway.

 

There has never been a Delta 350 at JFK. I don't think we'll see a base there any time soon. We don't even fly to Asia from JFK (that would be a first step.)

The AE's continually allude to standing up the BOS 330 base in one bid period (ie: holding pilots current in the aircraft in their current category until other pilots finish training.) I predict a Fall AE with 70 A and 140 B positions. The vast majority of A awardees will be senior NYC pilots (330, 7ER, maybe even a few 765 hold-outs who will learn French so they can drive to work.) They will backfill most but not all of these NYC 330 positions. This will lead to later 2007 hires being awarded 330A in NYC. 2014 hires will have to wait a while.

 

There was a NYC777 base back in 2008-2010ish. Perhaps the 350-1000 back to BOM while waiting on Asian route authority. It is possible. 😁