2023 Sick Leave Incentive Results
#131
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Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 4,909
Unless I’m mistaken, I have zero hours of paid sick leave that I may use to care for a sick dependent. I don’t see how Delta pilots can be considered excluded from Minnesota State Sick?
#132
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Joined APC: Feb 2020
Posts: 734
#133
It's not that MN was saying Delta has to treat it as PTO, it was the fact that the company supposedly argued that our sick leave was a form of PTO so we should be exempt. As I said, if true then its a pretty hypocritical argument, especially since they say we can't use sick leave for family. As Jax said, pretty crappy move.
https://ogletree.com/insights-resour...igency%20leave.
https://www.startribune.com/ramstad-...ost/600317961/
Last edited by notEnuf; 01-01-2024 at 07:13 AM.
#134
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Joined APC: Jul 2010
Position: window seat
Posts: 12,522
I agree. Our PWA is federally negotiated to equally apply to all. Anything other than that can be carved out in the PWA, like co-terminals and other minor items. But sick leave is uniform across the group; there is no contractual carve out. No group should be able to use that equally negotiated benefit for unequal benefit. If any domicile's local laws allow a superior usage of a collectively negotiated benefit, then all domiciles should get that benefit.
#135
I agree. Our PWA is federally negotiated to equally apply to all. Anything other than that can be carved out in the PWA, like co-terminals and other minor items. But sick leave is uniform across the group; there is no contractual carve out. No group should be able to use that equally negotiated benefit for unequal benefit. If any domicile's local laws allow a superior usage of a collectively negotiated benefit, then all domiciles should get that benefit.
Given that the company argued that we had an equivalent benefit, I think we're all now good to use if for family.
#136
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Joined APC: Oct 2017
Position: 737 A
Posts: 901
#137
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Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: DAL FO
Posts: 2,143
#138
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Joined APC: Jul 2010
Position: window seat
Posts: 12,522
Agreed. The IMSAFE model has acknowledged for decades that intense life event distractions can be a safety issue. A criticall ill family member is a far greater threat than 47 hours after taking Nyquill.
#139
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jul 2013
Posts: 46
I'm a little late to the game as I've been on vacation but I just saw the sick incentive results. And I just came here to say...
I'm so proud of all of you and this is the proudest I've been to be a Delta pilot in quite a while. This was exactly the kind of news I needed before I went back to work. Prioritize your physical and mental health and the health of others.
I'm so proud of all of you and this is the proudest I've been to be a Delta pilot in quite a while. This was exactly the kind of news I needed before I went back to work. Prioritize your physical and mental health and the health of others.
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