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Old 01-03-2024, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Buck Rogers View Post
Gotta live where you want. A reasonable cost is unimportant. Just rying to get facts as I have a kid contemplating a move to Texas... I wanted to have factual data, therefore my question.

At the other end of the spectrum.... reading about numerous "million $$$ men" this year at Delta. The state income tax in California would amount to a huge bite at 13% state income tax.... ouch! That might even be approaching one's
"fair share".... until they run a defecit and it goes even higher. Oh, wait stop the preses... double ouch!!!
Moving to Texas comes in many flavors. IAH, DFW, AUS, SAT and the multiple outlying suburbs vary widely. That just covers the triangle. East Texas and West Texas are about as different as AZ and GA. I've flown with more than one "million dollar man" and state taxes are a huge burden. Family was generally more of a deciding factor than state taxes on choice of residence.

I'd be happy to share opinions on different areas of TX either publicly or via PM is you'd rather not give away your son's location. If he has kids, school district or proximity to private school will likely be the primary consideration within a metro area.
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Old 01-03-2024, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Buck Rogers View Post
Gotta live where you want. A reasonable cost is unimportant. Just rying to get facts as I have a kid contemplating a move to Texas... I wanted to have factual data, therefore my question.

At the other end of the spectrum.... reading about numerous "million $$$ men" this year at Delta. The state income tax in California would amount to a huge bite at 13% state income tax.... ouch! That might even be approaching one's
"fair share".... until they run a defecit and it goes even higher. Oh, wait stop the preses... double ouch!!!
Don’t get me wrong. I didn’t dislike Texas. What Gun said is right…West and East Texas are vastly different. Strictly talking about Houston vs Atlanta (the original argument, and having lived in both), I’d pick Atlanta.
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Old 01-03-2024, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by SideStickMonkey View Post
I’d happily pay more in taxes to not live in Texas ever again.
Amen brotha. I’ve lived in “cheap” places and I’ve lived “expensive” places. You get what you pay for (for the most part).
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Old 01-03-2024, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Forgotmyhat View Post
Amen brotha. I’ve lived in “cheap” places and I’ve lived “expensive” places. You get what you pay for (for the most part).
When I was a new hire with no house, looking to buy one in New Hampshire (BOS base) the prices were about double anything similar in Atlanta.

When I mentioned this to the FO he said, "That's because an acre of red clay is still an acre of red clay."

I ended up buying a small 3/2 house in Exeter, NH built in 1962 for $189,000, at the very peak of the market in 1988, lived in it 9 years (and 4 kids) and lost $20,000 when I sold it in 1997 for $169,000, after they closed the BOS base in 1996. The realtor told me I was lucky to get that! She said most of her clients had to bring money to the closing!
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Old 01-03-2024, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg View Post
Having lived close to CLE and DTW, I much prefer CLE. But I truly wish CVG had been our DTW, much better area down there. Otherwise, I can't disagree with the rest.
i'm guessing you've never been to a Michigan lake. And you certainly have not been to Ohio or Kentucky lake because they simply don't exist. And Ann Arbor is just fantastic like nothing else. Even our conservative guys like it there.
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i'm guessing you've never been to a Michigan lake. And you certainly have not been to Ohio or Kentucky lake because they simply don't exist. And Ann Arbor is just fantastic like nothing else. Even our conservative guys like it there.
There’s literally a “Kentucky Lake”! Ask Patti, it’s been there since 1881 or so.
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Old 01-04-2024, 12:47 AM
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i'm guessing you've never been to a Michigan lake. And you certainly have not been to Ohio or Kentucky lake because they simply don't exist. And Ann Arbor is just fantastic like nothing else. Even our conservative guys like it there.

You're guessing wrong, I've been to lots of Michigan Lakes. I drove nearly every mile of lake frontage in the Irish Hills (a few other places) during early rona days as I considered a rental lake house. I grew up in Ohio and spent a lot of my childhood on an Ohio lake fishing...on a lake the doesn't exist I guess. I'm just more apt to live on a fly-in community than I am a lake.

Ann Arbor isn't bad, I actually used to keep my plane at ARB, but it's certainly not the end all, be all town. I did enjoy getting the death stares as a late as early last year for not wearing a mask in the Costco by the airport. I'd prefer to live in the Dexter area as I generally prefer a rural vibe.

I'd consider Tecumseh, I know a Delta pilot living on that airport, but nothing good is opening up there. The rest of viable communities are just a bit too far north for me. This brings up another reason I'd rather have CVG, I'm not a fan of winter, snow, cold weather anymore. Just that difference in latitude makes a huge difference in temp which leads to a more mild winter. More sunshine and warmer temps throughout the winter does wonders for my mood lol. Not to mention I'd easily get another 2 or 3 months of good flying weather down there.
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You could do the Snowbird thing and buy something small in central FL near or on an airport so you could fly in good weather all winter. I've got several friends who do that, one comes down from Ontario, Canada with his LSA airplane.
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Old 01-04-2024, 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Buck Rogers View Post

My house in a metro area of Texas, 3500sq ft, on golf course..... property taxes of $7400/year.

If you make more than 350K, the state tax burden of GA is even more demonstrable
My 3,600 sq. ft. house is on a ... street ... in suburban Atlanta; taxes $7,600 a year increasing 25% annually and our new County Prosecutor's latest "leadership project" is a victim's assistance puppy. His puppy has a staff of two people ... I kid you not.

Anyway, back to bases. With age 67, a big push to reduce costs in Flight Ops Admin and Training, the short answer is "we'd prefer you not have a way to exit a seat-lock." They have a critical mass of 320's & 737 to cover any flight network dreams up domestically and the early duty in's from timbuktu feed the network from towns where the hotels are cheap.
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Old 01-11-2024, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by saturn View Post
I think we are missing Bob's big picture here. Pre-covid, HE was the one talking about SEA320, BOS320, SLC330, etc. What changed? Covid, obviously. But 2021-present, the issue is training. We have been literally hiring and upgrading to whatever the maximum training capacity permitted. Over the years, Bob has explained why the line changed to 'no new base today, maybe tomorrow'... training capacity. Opening a new base is like adding a new fleet type. It creates more sim sessions + OE so pilots can play musical chairs, but doesn't increase block hours or replace retirements. Post 2020, DL has been racing to restore capacity. Opening a new base/category actually muted their ability to get back to scale/grow. It's more of a long term savings/reliability quotient.

So I do think we will open a BOS base. When? Well, perhaps when we don't have so much training demand paired with network having a more firm idea about fleeting. BOS has equal mainline departures as SEA.. it'll warrant a base inevitably. They just don't see the cost benefit in the present. Perhaps if we see everything stagnate with a quiet school house, it'll be warranted.
Well now with the news of hiring ~1000 this year instead of 2000+, Im hoping your hunch is accurate
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