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01-13-2024 | 09:01 AM

#131

notEnuf

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From: N60.4858 W149.9327

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Originally Posted by JamesBond

Excellent idea.

That route goes through Canada and Pacific international airspace.

01-13-2024 | 09:20 AM

#132

gloopy

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From: window seat

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Originally Posted by overqualified52

They don't need the money. They do it for love of what they do .

Airlines will need experienced instructors and managers at their flight academies. What better way to live the passion?

Or corporate flying.

Its just about the passion afterall, right?

01-13-2024 | 09:38 AM

#133

Chico

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From: Aspiring Airline Pilot

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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules

You don’t know what you’re talking about. Countries can’t secure unilateral agreements outside of ICAO. It’s the very reason that Canada has said that U.S. pilots won’t be able to fly to Canada over the current age of 65 despite the fact that Canadian pilots can fly in Canada over the age of 65. And ICAO is several years away at best to making any changes to the mandatory retirement age.

Dude: You don't know what you're talking about! NZ and Australia currently has over 65 pilots flying between countries because they have a side agreement. My dad's friend is one of them.

01-13-2024 | 10:07 AM

#134

myrkridia

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Originally Posted by Chico

Dude: You don't know what you're talking about! NZ and Australia currently has over 65 pilots flying between countries because they have a side agreement. My dad's friend is one of them.

Who's Dude and why does he keep speaking on your behalf?

01-13-2024 | 10:33 AM

#135

snowdawg

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The average age of the House is 58, Senate is 65.3. Government wants to keep people working longer generating tax revenue. Pretty sure age 67 is a done deal, like it or not.

01-13-2024 | 11:27 AM

#136

Gunfighter

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Quote:

Originally Posted by snowdawg

The average age of the House is 58, Senate is 65.3. Government wants to keep people working longer generating tax revenue. Pretty sure age 67 is a done deal, like it or not.

Can we get delayed implementation and put Delta in charge of it?

01-13-2024 | 11:32 AM

#137

jerryleber

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From: 787 FO

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Originally Posted by snowdawg

Pretty sure age 67 is a done deal, like it or not.

If that was the case why would their lobbyist have these pilots send this letter to Congress? Obviously, they wouldn't and Senator Cruz wouldn't be complaining about ALPA holding up the FAA Reauthorization bill.

Senator Cruz Slams ALPA

Contact your Senators now. Let them know the FAA Medical is incapable of evaluating cognitive decline.

https://alpa.quorum.us/campaign/48916/

01-13-2024 | 11:46 AM

#138

StoneQOLdCrazy

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Quote:

Originally Posted by snowdawg

The average age of the House is 58, Senate is 65.3. Government wants to keep people working longer generating tax revenue. Pretty sure age 67 is a done deal, like it or not.

The AFL-CIO is now lobbying on behalf of ALPA's position.
No Dem lawmaker is going to buck Big Labor, and definately not in a preseidential election year.

01-13-2024 | 11:47 AM

#139

hvydvr

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From: Wind checker

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Originally Posted by JamesBond

Japan.....

Good luck with that physical.

01-13-2024 | 12:07 PM

#140

Vsop

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From: 737 A

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Originally Posted by rickair7777

Just to keep this rational... federal age discrimination law would 100% prevent any company or union restrictions based on (old) age.

Only federal law (or the constitution) can supersede federal law.

If you hate 67, don't rely on your union to fix it after it passes.

I was wondering why the companies have been so quiet on this. In searching the DL PWA I might have found the answer. I agree that an age cannot be set via union-company negotiation, but read this section closely.

20.B.1
A pilot will accrue and retain seniority until the earlier of their termination, resignation, retirement, death, or attainment of the latest age under Part 121 of the FARs or other applicable statutes that they can serve as PIC or SIC, at which time they will be removed from the seniority list under Section 13. B. 3.

I believe that ALPA and the airlines will the bolded language to say ICAO, EASA, Canada … laws do not allow pilots over 65.