Be careful in South Africa
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BTK was a lone serial killer. This was a gang of thugs kidnapping and torturing to rob. There are more than just this one.
Here's a quote from the report: "Kidnappings have been on the rise in South Africa in recent years, with South African Police Service statistics suggesting they have more than tripled in the space of a decade, rising from 4,306 cases in 2014 to nearly 15,342 in 2023."
There's a difference.
Here's a quote from the report: "Kidnappings have been on the rise in South Africa in recent years, with South African Police Service statistics suggesting they have more than tripled in the space of a decade, rising from 4,306 cases in 2014 to nearly 15,342 in 2023."
There's a difference.
Most fleets go to Mexico which has numerous reports of kidnappings and killings, but this was about the 717 so..
https://usafacts.org/articles/which-states-have-the-highest-murder-rates/
Sadly much of the 717 range has seen murder rates dramatically increase over the last decade.
There was a comment about the 717 seemingly being a safe bid. Maybe it’s safer, but not by as much as we would like it to be. All of us need to be aware of our surroundings.
#13
I agree there’s a difference, but I disagree that it’s limited to South Africa or even far away locations.
Most fleets go to Mexico which has numerous reports of kidnappings and killings, but this was about the 717 so..
https://usafacts.org/articles/which-states-have-the-highest-murder-rates
/
Sadly much of the 717 range has seen murder rates dramatically increase over the last decade.
There was a comment about the 717 seemingly being a safe bid. Maybe it’s safer, but not by as much as we would like it to be. All of us need to be aware of our surroundings.
Most fleets go to Mexico which has numerous reports of kidnappings and killings, but this was about the 717 so..
https://usafacts.org/articles/which-states-have-the-highest-murder-rates
/
Sadly much of the 717 range has seen murder rates dramatically increase over the last decade.
There was a comment about the 717 seemingly being a safe bid. Maybe it’s safer, but not by as much as we would like it to be. All of us need to be aware of our surroundings.
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In this day and age, everything can be redefined.
The fragile types would probably consider being cuffed to a crapper as "torture".
Any updates on that situation?
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My sentiment is just that smalltown, USA doesn't necessarily gurantee saftey vs South Africa. One could get caught in one of our many mass shootings here in the states or perhaps the BA pilot could have avoided getting kidnapped by declining to help the old lady who set him up. The main thing is to be safe and aware wherever you are.
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Meh....the article said he was "roughed up" but that could happen in NYC, LA, Chicago or Boston. Some unnamed "source" in a Daily Mail article (synonymous with sensational journalism) says he endured hours of torture. I'll take that anonymous hearsay with a grain of salt.
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Meh....the article said he was "roughed up" but that could happen in NYC, LA, Chicago or Boston. Some unnamed "source" in a Daily Mail article (synonymous with sensational journalism) says he endured hours of torture. I'll take that anonymous hearsay with a grain of salt.
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