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Originally Posted by Tfork
(Post 3752829)
And the polls had nothing to do with that, but you knew that already.
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Originally Posted by gloopy
(Post 3752904)
You can't possibly think what's happening now is blind lady justice going where the evidence leads.
Grand Juries by our citizens have produced indictments. Again, are you just going to brush aside the system and process we use to gain justice? A jury found that Trump did commit sexual abuse (defined as rape) in most states. Again, do you just completely disregard that finding? Your point seems to be that everyone commits crime, so crime is fine. I do not agree. I bet neither of us think it fine to walk up and grab a woman by her crotch. I'd bet you and I both pay our bills. Neither of us has probably ever raised money for charity and kept it. I think crime is bad and not prosecuting crime is corrosive to our society. At some point, non-prosecution results in stores leaving San Francisco because thieve know they can get away with it. The city will collapse without law and order. I'm not a fan of Fani Willis' style, but Fulton County is correct to prosecute election interference and attempted fraud at this level. Other prosecutors have gone through great pains to separate politics and prosecution. Some agencies have candidly stated that they have not prosecuted Trump because he is well-funded and extremely litigious. I do not think it fair that the US IRS would prosecute you or me because we pretty easy targets. Meanwhile, billionaires brag from their perches on golden toilets that they do not pay taxes. That is the kind of rot that destroys the unity we need in our nation. Every citizen the same; lock up the Jan 6'ers with the BLM rioters. |
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
(Post 3753078)
Articles were posted with statements from Trump's own administration attesting to the legitimacy of the efforts. Are you just going to ignore Trump's own Attorney General?
Grand Juries by our citizens have produced indictments. Again, are you just going to brush aside the system and process we use to gain justice? A jury found that Trump did commit sexual abuse (defined as rape) in most states. Again, do you just completely disregard that finding? Your point seems to be that everyone commits crime, so crime is fine. I do not agree. I bet neither of us think it fine to walk up and grab a woman by her crotch. I'd bet you and I both pay our bills. Neither of us has probably ever raised money for charity and kept it. I think crime is bad and not prosecuting crime is corrosive to our society. At some point, non-prosecution results in stores leaving San Francisco because thieve know they can get away with it. The city will collapse without law and order. I'm not a fan of Fani Willis' style, but Fulton County is correct to prosecute election interference and attempted fraud at this level. Other prosecutors have gone through great pains to separate politics and prosecution. Some agencies have candidly stated that they have not prosecuted Trump because he is well-funded and extremely litigious. I do not think it fair that the US IRS would prosecute you or me because we pretty easy targets. Meanwhile, billionaires brag from their perches on golden toilets that they do not pay taxes. That is the kind of rot that destroys the unity we need in our nation. Every citizen the same; lock up the Jan 6'ers with the BLM rioters. Something tells me that if Trump were to keel over tomorrow and Vivek, or Desantis were to assume the conservative focus points in this contry, they'd soon become the targets of multiple "investigations" and painted as both the devil reincarnated/imbicilish by the non "basket of deplorables" as they "cling to their guns and religion". |
Originally Posted by gloopy
(Post 3752904)
And you don't get to erase history simply by using the word trope. Beria was infamous for selective prosecution. He coined the term "show me the man and I'll show you the crime." I knew of him historically before I'd ever heard of Bannon so nice try but another swing and a miss, and an ad homenim at that. I expect better from you.
https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...mmunity-2024-1 https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ame-plan-alarm and he has been in court stating he could kill citizens and opponents and be immune from prosecution https://thehill.com/regulation/court...tial-immunity/ I thought you might find the Steve Bannon connection handy. Not sure what kind of snowflake would take that personally. Heck, I'll own it. ... Bannon explains Trump's 2am (is a tweet from the toilet a ****-post?) Stalinist missives better than Trump does. I guess that the tweets were Trump's take on whatever Bannon was putting in his ear. |
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
(Post 3753105)
Then you know exactly what Trump has threatened to do to political opponents.
https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...mmunity-2024-1 https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ame-plan-alarm and he has been in court stating he could kill citizens and opponents and be immune from prosecution https://thehill.com/regulation/court...tial-immunity/ I thought you might find the Steve Bannon connection handy. Not sure what kind of snowflake would take that personally. Heck, I'll own it. ... Bannon explains Trump's 2am (is a tweet from the toilet a ****-post?) Stalinist missives better than Trump does. I guess that the tweets were Trump's take on whatever Bannon was putting in his ear. When Trump says he's "gonna build the wall and have Mexico pay for it" Conservatives hear he's gonna enforce immigration laws and bring Mexico into helping stem the flow. Liberals actually think he's gonna complete 1000miles of fencing and send an invoice to Mexico City. |
Originally Posted by nene
(Post 3753109)
It's been said a million times, Liberals take Trump LITERALLY, Conservatives take Trump FIGURATIVELY. That is why both sides can't agree on his successes or failures.
When Trump says he's "gonna build the wall and have Mexico pay for it" Conservatives hear he's gonna enforce immigration laws and bring Mexico into helping stem the flow. Liberals actually think he's gonna complete 1000miles of fencing and send an invoice to Mexico City. And that sad part is that cultists are cool with it either way. |
Originally Posted by nene
(Post 3753109)
It's been said a million times, Liberals take Trump LITERALLY, Conservatives take Trump FIGURATIVELY. That is why both sides can't agree on his successes or failures.
When Trump says he's "gonna build the wall and have Mexico pay for it" Conservatives hear he's gonna enforce immigration laws and bring Mexico into helping stem the flow. Liberals actually think he's gonna complete 1000miles of fencing and send an invoice to Mexico City. Someone go back in time and tell Stalin that Hitler's non aggression pact was to be taken figuratively! |
Originally Posted by nene
(Post 3753109)
It's been said a million times, Liberals take Trump LITERALLY, Conservatives take Trump FIGURATIVELY. That is why both sides can't agree on his successes or failures.
When Trump says he's "gonna build the wall and have Mexico pay for it" Conservatives hear he's gonna enforce immigration laws and bring Mexico into helping stem the flow. Liberals actually think he's gonna complete 1000miles of fencing and send an invoice to Mexico City. |
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
(Post 3753078)
Grand Juries by our citizens have produced indictments. Again, are you just going to brush aside the system and process we use to gain justice?
No one is brushing aside the system and process; its being called out for being grossly weaponized in a way that would make Stalin or the CCP blush. It is absolutly no longer legitimate, but might makes right, doesn't it. |
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
(Post 3753105)
and he has been in court stating he could kill citizens and opponents and be immune from prosecution [size=33px] |
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