Tower Closed/CTAF Ops, FOD check
02-28-2024, 10:09 AM
#101
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
Jackrabbits. They grow big in some places, they like runways because they are warm and inside the fence there's typically critter control that pops most of their primary preditors like wolves, coyotes and whatnot.
Buddy of mine hit one in their KingAir, and it tore the airplane up pretty good, to the point they were waiting several weeks for engineering guidance & parts from Beech (which was post-Raytheon/HBC at the time).
Buddy of mine hit one in their KingAir, and it tore the airplane up pretty good, to the point they were waiting several weeks for engineering guidance & parts from Beech (which was post-Raytheon/HBC at the time).
02-28-2024, 10:49 AM
#102
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Originally Posted by Whoopsmybad
I know a plane that hit a pig on a uncontrolled field in Alabama.
02-28-2024, 11:17 AM
#103
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
Jackrabbits. They grow big in some places, they like runways because they are warm and inside the fence there's typically critter control that pops most of their primary preditors like wolves, coyotes and whatnot.
Buddy of mine hit one in their KingAir, and it tore the airplane up pretty good, to the point they were waiting several weeks for engineering guidance & parts from Beech (which was post-Raytheon/HBC at the time).
Buddy of mine hit one in their KingAir, and it tore the airplane up pretty good, to the point they were waiting several weeks for engineering guidance & parts from Beech (which was post-Raytheon/HBC at the time).
I was an FO at the time and the PM. I think my callout was "V1...oh *******!' The CA aborted past V1 and it was the right decision. The WOW sensors were destroyed and one of the NLG hydraulic lines was leaking fluid everywhere. Not to mention half of a coyote glued onto each of the three gear legs.
That said, if I were ever to suggest taxiing up and down the runway at night to spot any potential FOD, my FOs would probably look at me like I'd sprouted a second head....
02-28-2024, 11:41 AM
#104
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Originally Posted by Turbosina
Not to mention half of a coyote glued onto each of the three gear legs.[size=33px]
02-29-2024, 02:57 AM
#109
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Concepts for thought
There are 2 important concepts here that should be food for thought.
De-confliction, and threat management.
I was involved in ALPA Air Safety for a number of years. I always briefed my crew (other pilot and flight attendants) to please speak up at ANY time they heard, smelled, or saw ANYTHING that was out of the ordinary or that they had ANY cincerns about. This ensured everyone involved that not only was their input encouraged but that it was important for safety of flight. It only takes around 1 carpet dance with the FAA, or the CP office at a pilot hostile airline to change bad attitudes in the least case, up to and including an incident/accident in the worst case.
Police your attitudes or they might very well be your un-doing.
De-confliction, and threat management.
I was involved in ALPA Air Safety for a number of years. I always briefed my crew (other pilot and flight attendants) to please speak up at ANY time they heard, smelled, or saw ANYTHING that was out of the ordinary or that they had ANY cincerns about. This ensured everyone involved that not only was their input encouraged but that it was important for safety of flight. It only takes around 1 carpet dance with the FAA, or the CP office at a pilot hostile airline to change bad attitudes in the least case, up to and including an incident/accident in the worst case.
Police your attitudes or they might very well be your un-doing.
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