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Originally Posted by notEnuf
(Post 3785893)
Approach and attitude aside, he has a point. Delta pilots on the JS are magically weightless but OAL uniforms must be heavy.
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
(Post 3785893)
Approach and attitude aside, he has a point. Delta pilots on the JS are magically weightless but OAL uniforms must be heavy.
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Originally Posted by Falcon20
(Post 3785898)
Its not that as I'm sure you are aware. Load control will manually remove the jump seat weight to allow a paying passenger to board if it isn't occupied. I had the jump seat and they paid people to get off the jet but I was protected.
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I'm curious what alrline would allow a captain to bump paying pax or online nonrevs, while allowing off-line jumpseaters onto a weight restricted flight?
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Originally Posted by Servant Leader
(Post 3785881)
You guys need to get control of your f-ing jumpseat or your pilots are going to start getting left at the gate. This "payload optimization" is bullsh-t, and the fact that it only applies to offline pilots is a slap in the face to your union bretheren.
You might as well go back to the days when mother Delta didn't even allow jumpseaters (yes, I am that old). Grow a set and refuse to drop the brake until the pilot needing a ride is on your plane; I have. |
Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 3785908)
Just so I understand, you will have your gate agent come onboard to pull a revenue passenger to board a offline jumpseater. Is that correct?
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Originally Posted by Servant Leader
(Post 3785881)
You guys need to get control of your f-ing jumpseat or your pilots are going to start getting left at the gate. This "payload optimization" is bullsh-t, and the fact that it only applies to offline pilots is a slap in the face to your union bretheren.
You might as well go back to the days when mother Delta didn't even allow jumpseaters (yes, I am that old). Grow a set and refuse to drop the brake until the pilot needing a ride is on your plane; I have. I've missed a commute before too. I get it, it sucks. But emotional "hot take" posts accounts rarely age well for several reasons, not the least of which is when you are demonstrably wrong. As already pointed out, there are zero airlines who will bump a paying passenger for you to ride to work, including yours (wherever you work), regardless of whether it's for weight or performance. The fact that our company grants our own the privlege of not getting bumped is irrelevant to you (since you obviously don't work here). Anonymity really strengthens your argument too, btw. </S> I'll bet when you sleep on this, and calm down a little, you will (hopefully) feel a little embarassed. But at least you used a burner account, so no harm done. |
Originally Posted by Servant Leader
(Post 3785881)
You guys need to get control of your f-ing jumpseat or your pilots are going to start getting left at the gate. This "payload optimization" is bullsh-t, and the fact that it only applies to offline pilots is a slap in the face to your union bretheren.
You might as well go back to the days when mother Delta didn't even allow jumpseaters (yes, I am that old). Grow a set and refuse to drop the brake until the pilot needing a ride is on your plane; I have. |
Originally Posted by hvydvr
(Post 3785919)
There are some decaffeinated brands that are just as good as the real thing. It will prevent you from coming off like a jackass when you don’t know what is going on….
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The real isssue is the historic value of BOW. It used to include all flight crew seats with occupants. Delta and others I'm sure have systematically taken away weight where they could legally do so in the name of profitability. This is why we no longer have a 1000 pound performance pad and WDRs with 0 tailwinds. My point is only that as these new "limits" are set, they are trimming pilots' acess to benefits (off line JS) and encroach on DAL employed pilots' benefits on other airlines, and maybe even make our own less secure.
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