not as obvious as you think. There was a pretty prolific SM poster who did exactly that (73NA to 350A with about a year to go) and they didn’t bypass him. He did make a FB post ahead of time saying he was fishing so they might have made an effort not to bypass him knowing he would back out.


it seems like if they think they can get you off OE and get a few revenue flights out of you they will not bypass. I’m sure there is lots of things they consider, but I have not seen a bypass with more than 6 months to go in the last several AEs

I wonder if with the new contract provision they are less likely to bypass because they are playing chicken with those fishing for a bypass hoping they back out.

Good point. I wonder if they up the amount of vacancies by guesstimating which guys are gonna bail with their get out of jail free card, then settle for a certain percentage per AE who go to training and get on the line.

That's not obvious, because it literally happened not too long ago. One of the favorite CC posters, an ATL 73N that had a smidge over 1 year to go bid for and was awarded ATL350A....he posted about how he was doing it hoping to get bypassed. When he didn't, he pulled the trigger on the PWA clause to one time drop out of training no harm no foul. He has sicne retired.

It's not even a gamble with the one freebee withdrawl. At 62.5 I'll bid any WBA and try for a bypass.

62.5 is a guarantee you'll burn the freebie unless you are already single digit seniority. 63.5 might even be pushing it. 64+ gives you a 50/50 chance.
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Burn it at 62.5 and then bid it again at 64.5. I'd do the training at 64 and deal with 3-6 months of RES. Or bid 350A 4 man trips and voluteer to be "relief captain" for the remainder.

#>pay4<work

I don’t know if the OP is still reading this thread but I think this is a clear “grass is always greener” situation. You’re currently living in base, driving to work, making bank. If you jump to delta you will eventually have that same setup again. Most likely in the same equipment, all it will require is: a year of probie pay, uproot your family and move, significant hit to seniority and the added threat of furlough while you ride the bottom of the list. All to be in the same exact position you are already in for the next 10 years. If it’s the airplane you hate, go to United. If you just want to drive to work and enjoy your life, stay put. You already made it. Cheers.

The pay rates on APC Delta profile appear to be possibly 2026 rates, where can one find the current pay rates? Or is year 1 FO $125?

2024 = $116.05
2025 = $120.69
2026 = $125.52

Thank you

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