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Originally Posted by Fly90
(Post 3840466)
This doesn't surprise me. The Delta captain probably works a lot less for the money he makes though.
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Originally Posted by crewdawg
(Post 3840420)
lol right. We have a 2020 hire that's a 717B, dude could easily hold 350A. But we also have quite a few 2014 hires on it, who don't seem to be moving anytime soon. Many of them making more than Captains and WB FOs. Clearly it's not the worst thing to happen.
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
(Post 3840370)
Well, you did say this:
You clearly meant it as a put down. I don't blame him for taking offense. |
Originally Posted by DogPit
(Post 3840527)
Glad you are here to white night.
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Originally Posted by DogPit
(Post 3840527)
Glad you are here to white night.
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Originally Posted by Fly90
(Post 3840466)
This doesn't surprise me. The Delta captain probably works a lot less for the money he makes though.
When I was looking for a 121 job my criteria was base locations and upward mobility into higher paying (larger) airplanes. Also I didn't want to be on the street looking for work or out on strike any time soon. My top two choices were AA and DL, and then a distant 3rd was US Air, because they all had a BOS base at the time. Also I wanted to fly international eventually. Fast forward 40 years and everything's different. No more Pan Am, TWA, Eastern, North West, Continental, Braniff, People Express, and so many others. What looks great today may turn to crap in the future and there's no way to know if you're making a good decision until you've retired. Pay and benefits wise I'd have been much better off going to FedEx, but I was sick of flying freight at night and until all the majors went bankrupt they paid a bit more than FedEx. That all changed after 9-11, but there's probably going to be more black swans over your next 35 years so, good luck! |
Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
(Post 3839945)
There is no way anyone can predict any airline's fleet in 30 years. You would be behind a hiring peak at D for sure but it's still a legacy with a top contract. If it's widebodies your after, go to UAL. Choose a legacy on where you want to live. Fleets, and even cultures change.
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Fly90, I think you need to zoom out on your timeline and study some airline history. Would you believe me if I told you that Delta was also the place to be some 25 years ago? They and UAL were the cat's meow. So was US Air. Then they went bankrupt after 9/11, and boatloads of their jobs got outsourced. You know which airline shined back then and enjoyed a huge rise in seniority? You guessed it.... the Southwestern Trailways. Wanna go back even further? Imagine being a Pan Am pilot.... or how about TWA? Or the real Eastern? Let's get to more recent history.... how about FedEx?
You might even be able to pull posts on Southwest threads about guys asking if they should leave SWA for Fedex "because upgrade to a 757 was almost off the street and Southwest upgrade is a lifetime away..." Also, you may see comments along the lines of "freight is a more stable career than pax airlines..." Now look at them. They were offered deals to go to PSA Airlines with a big bonus! A regional! My point? Settle down. You live in a seniority-driven world. Were you seriously expecting a 35+ year career of zero corporate drama? Did you think you would get that at Delta? Or any other airline for that matter? If you do, please contact me for a super cheap deal on a bridge on either coast.... As others said, unless you're one of the last few hired at Southwest, you probably missed the boat at the legacies. Look at the numbers hired at Delta just since 2021... FAPA shows 6,431 pilots hired just in the last 3 years - and they've been hiring since 2014. See for yourself: https://www.fapa.aero/pilot-hiring-history APC is full of trolling jackwagons who get off on people's misery and sowing FUD... learn to ignore people like that and even put some more annoying ones on your ignore list. My advice to you is enjoy life and whatever that means to you. You get 18-20 days off per month. Go vacation somewhere, pick up a hobby that gets you away from the negative nancies on these boards. Or you can bang away 150+ TFP per month and sock away cash. It's nice to have options, and you have plenty of them without nuking the seniority you already have. |
Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
(Post 3840608)
Fly90, I think you need to zoom out on your timeline and study some airline history. Would you believe me if I told you that Delta was also the place to be some 25 years ago? They and UAL were the cat's meow. So was US Air. Then they went bankrupt after 9/11, and boatloads of their jobs got outsourced. You know which airline shined back then and enjoyed a huge rise in seniority? You guessed it.... the Southwestern Trailways. Wanna go back even further? Imagine being a Pan Am pilot.... or how about TWA? Or the real Eastern? Let's get to more recent history.... how about FedEx?
You might even be able to pull posts on Southwest threads about guys asking if they should leave SWA for Fedex "because upgrade to a 757 was almost off the street and Southwest upgrade is a lifetime away..." Also, you may see comments along the lines of "freight is a more stable career than pax airlines..." Now look at them. They were offered deals to go to PSA Airlines with a big bonus! A regional! My point? Settle down. You live in a seniority-driven world. Were you seriously expecting a 35+ year career of zero corporate drama? Did you think you would get that at Delta? Or any other airline for that matter? If you do, please contact me for a super cheap deal on a bridge on either coast.... As others said, unless you're one of the last few hired at Southwest, you probably missed the boat at the legacies. Look at the numbers hired at Delta just since 2021... FAPA shows 6,431 pilots hired just in the last 3 years - and they've been hiring since 2014. See for yourself: https://www.fapa.aero/pilot-hiring-history APC is full of trolling jackwagons who get off on people's misery and sowing FUD... learn to ignore people like that and even put some more annoying ones on your ignore list. My advice to you is enjoy life and whatever that means to you. You get 18-20 days off per month. Go vacation somewhere, pick up a hobby that gets you away from the negative nancies on these boards. Or you can bang away 150+ TFP per month and sock away cash. It's nice to have options, and you have plenty of them without nuking the seniority you already have. |
Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
(Post 3840608)
Fly90, I think you need to zoom out on your timeline and study some airline history. Would you believe me if I told you that Delta was also the place to be some 25 years ago? They and UAL were the cat's meow. So was US Air. Then they went bankrupt after 9/11, and boatloads of their jobs got outsourced. You know which airline shined back then and enjoyed a huge rise in seniority? You guessed it.... the Southwestern Trailways. Wanna go back even further? Imagine being a Pan Am pilot.... or how about TWA? Or the real Eastern? Let's get to more recent history.... how about FedEx?
You might even be able to pull posts on Southwest threads about guys asking if they should leave SWA for Fedex "because upgrade to a 757 was almost off the street and Southwest upgrade is a lifetime away..." Also, you may see comments along the lines of "freight is a more stable career than pax airlines..." Now look at them. They were offered deals to go to PSA Airlines with a big bonus! A regional! My point? Settle down. You live in a seniority-driven world. Were you seriously expecting a 35+ year career of zero corporate drama? Did you think you would get that at Delta? Or any other airline for that matter? If you do, please contact me for a super cheap deal on a bridge on either coast.... As others said, unless you're one of the last few hired at Southwest, you probably missed the boat at the legacies. Look at the numbers hired at Delta just since 2021... FAPA shows 6,431 pilots hired just in the last 3 years - and they've been hiring since 2014. See for yourself: https://www.fapa.aero/pilot-hiring-history APC is full of trolling jackwagons who get off on people's misery and sowing FUD... learn to ignore people like that and even put some more annoying ones on your ignore list. My advice to you is enjoy life and whatever that means to you. You get 18-20 days off per month. Go vacation somewhere, pick up a hobby that gets you away from the negative nancies on these boards. Or you can bang away 150+ TFP per month and sock away cash. It's nice to have options, and you have plenty of them without nuking the seniority you already have. This thread has been surprisingly helpful but APC standards. Yes, there are a lot of trolls. Already ran into a few. Not sure how to use the ignore feature on here. |
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