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Originally Posted by Boatbuilder
(Post 3925001)
Looking like the 200% isn’t accounted for on at least one of my RR’s. I asked via crew assist and was almost immediately told nope, it’s correct.
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Originally Posted by cencal83406
(Post 3924992)
Don't fill out an STS until you have your answer. No point in contacting ALPA if resolving it with the company works.
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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF
(Post 3925006)
Disagree….fill it out while details are fresh….you can always delete the STS when/if you get positive resolution from the company.
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Originally Posted by Viper25
(Post 3924994)
RRPY (23L4) only.
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Originally Posted by bugman61
(Post 3924993)
I’m not aware of any agreement between the scheduling committee and the company on reroute pay not being subject to the 120 day clock. If it exists in writing somewhere I’d like to see it. I would be shocked if I could go back to a rotation a year ago where I have not filed any disputes and say I was due reroute pay, and have the company pay it. There was an agreement that disputes field under ace/sts were automatically tolled WRT to other timelines in the pwa, I assume that is still in effect. However, reroute pay is not a bookkeeping error, and if it is exempt from 120 days that would need to come from someplace else.
The contract simply states you are due X m (in the form of hours) for reroutes. A *violation* of the PWA has a clock. Since you disagree I won’t bother trying to defend the 200%. |
Originally Posted by cencal83406
(Post 3925008)
Sure. Do it your way versus the way it’s been discussed in myriad MEC communications over the last several years.
I’ll keep filing as things happen because if I don’t I’ll get swamped…too many illegal RR’s, skipped 23.M.7, improper assigned SC, etc, to just let pile up in my own personal queue waiting for company answers. ALPA isn’t running out of cloud storage because a few 1’s and 0’s sat for a few weeks before being deleted if I get a good answer from the company. |
Originally Posted by cencal83406
(Post 3925010)
How is reroute pay not a bookkeeping error? It’s not a violation of the contract to receive a reroute.
The contract simply states you are due X m (in the form of hours) for reroutes. A *violation* of the PWA has a clock. Since you disagree I won’t bother trying to defend the 200%. Again, I’m open to there being a side agreement that exempts certain items from the timelines, but I haven’t seen one and you haven’t presented one. So until then best practice is to file crew assist claims until everyone is covered by an MEC grievance. |
Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF
(Post 3925016)
If it’s filed and then deleted before the Sched committee even looks at it 6 months later, did they even know it was there? Did anyone other than me “waste” man hours doing unnecessary work?
I’ll keep filing as things happen because if I don’t I’ll get swamped…too many illegal RR’s, skipped 23.M.7, improper assigned SC, etc, to just let pile up in my own personal queue waiting for company answers. ALPA isn’t running out of cloud storage because a few 1’s and 0’s sat for a few weeks before being deleted if I get a good answer from the company. |
Originally Posted by bugman61
(Post 3925018)
It’s literally a disagreement over the interpretation of language, like almost every other item that gets sent to sts or dart and goes through the process. When a pilot files a claim for normal reroute pay that is denied, it’s denied on the basis of the company saying a reroute has not occurred - a language dispute. The company’s position on 200% is that they are in compliance with the settlement, so that’s not a bookkeeping error either, it’s an argument over the settlement language.
Again, I’m open to there being a side agreement that exempts certain items from the timelines, but I haven’t seen one and you haven’t presented one. So until then best practice is to file crew assist claims until everyone is covered by an MEC grievance. A reroute is simply adding and/or removing segments and notification after first airborne departure. No room for interpretation there. |
Originally Posted by cencal83406
(Post 3924992)
Don't fill out an STS until you have your answer. No point in contacting ALPA if resolving it with the company works.
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