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nene 07-22-2025 02:48 PM
Originally Posted by Meme In Command (Post 3930847)
People still go out to have beers on layovers....IN THIS ECONOMY.

(But seriously though I'm too cheap for that ****)
Well in some of the Scandanavian cities a drink will set you back close to $20

METO Guido 07-22-2025 03:04 PM
Originally Posted by nene (Post 3930862)
Well in some of the Scandanavian cities a drink will set you back close to $20
High bottom, dependent drinkers might, might just get the oil warm on that.


CBreezy 07-22-2025 03:21 PM
Originally Posted by METO Guido (Post 3930854)
Co. policy is one thing. The US regulatory threshold for airman sobriety is .04, less than .02 considered too low for enforcement purposes. Unless that’s changed. Things change. Hims is obviously this unfortunate’s future. If, that is, she/he clears all the hurdles tossed at her path back.
It's been awhile since indoc, but I thought if you stepped onto the airplane, even HIMS couldn't save you.

Tinpusher007 07-22-2025 03:24 PM
Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 3930875)
It's been awhile since indoc, but I thought if you stepped onto the airplane, even HIMS couldn't save you.
Because "intent to fly"? But if you somehow managed to make it past security wouldn't you still be intent on flying?

rickair7777 07-22-2025 03:32 PM
Originally Posted by Tinpusher007 (Post 3930876)
Because "intent to fly"? But if you somehow managed to make it past security wouldn't you still be intent on flying?
No, at least for prosecution. A guy got off the hook years ago after they caught him at TSA (TSA predecessor?) by claiming that he showered, shaved, and put on the uniform because he was going to the airport to use the ops landline to call in unfit. Judge tossed the DUI due to reasonable doubt, maybe it was before cell phones were ubiquitous.

Same as if you walk out of a bar with car keys in your pocket or hand... doesn't count unless you open the driver's door. That one's been litigated too.

That's for US though, Euro laws might be different, they seem to be leaning into thought crimes these days.

Gone Flying 07-22-2025 03:39 PM
Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3930879)
That's for US though, Euro laws might be different, they seem to be leaning into thought crimes these days.
I believe intent to operate in the US has been established as reading a checklist. EU/UK have established intent to operate as reporting for duty.

Schwanker 07-22-2025 04:19 PM
https://viewfromthewing.com/delta-pi...owed-705-cash/

Apologies if the article referenced her or she instead of it or them.

TiredSoul 07-22-2025 05:00 PM
Originally Posted by Gone Flying (Post 3930883)
I believe intent to operate in the US has been established as reading a checklist. EU/UK have established intent to operate as reporting for duty.
Not only that.
Under ICAO the stricter rules apply.
So it’s irrelevant if the FAA allows 0.0X if the countries laws are stricter.
Same with intent.

Rinaldi 07-22-2025 05:34 PM
Originally Posted by JohnnyBekkestad (Post 3930838)
I paraphrased the news article. It literally states that the pilot was female.
the bigger question is why would you post this in the first place? Do we need to bring attention to this issue???

StoneQOLdCrazy 07-22-2025 06:07 PM
what if the allegation is unfounded?


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