Pilot arrested in Sweden for DUI
07-23-2025 | 11:03 AM
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from who?
I can’t imagine DL would be at fault
i imagine their cops have something similar to QI which renders them immune to lawsuits. Even if they don’t, they probably have laws set up to shield them from lawsuits. The fact they didn’t identify her will probably be enough to keep them from having any liability
the press didn’t report anything that was not made public by the police.
its terrible what happened to her but odds are she is SOL on getting any kind of meaningful payment for having her reputation trashed.
I can’t imagine DL would be at fault
i imagine their cops have something similar to QI which renders them immune to lawsuits. Even if they don’t, they probably have laws set up to shield them from lawsuits. The fact they didn’t identify her will probably be enough to keep them from having any liability
the press didn’t report anything that was not made public by the police.
its terrible what happened to her but odds are she is SOL on getting any kind of meaningful payment for having her reputation trashed.
07-23-2025 | 11:08 AM
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From: Pilot
from who?
I can’t imagine DL would be at fault
i imagine their cops have something similar to QI which renders them immune to lawsuits. Even if they don’t, they probably have laws set up to shield them from lawsuits. The fact they didn’t identify her will probably be enough to keep them from having any liability
the press didn’t report anything that was not made public by the police.
its terrible what happened to her but odds are she is SOL on getting any kind of meaningful payment for having her reputation trashed.
I can’t imagine DL would be at fault
i imagine their cops have something similar to QI which renders them immune to lawsuits. Even if they don’t, they probably have laws set up to shield them from lawsuits. The fact they didn’t identify her will probably be enough to keep them from having any liability
the press didn’t report anything that was not made public by the police.
its terrible what happened to her but odds are she is SOL on getting any kind of meaningful payment for having her reputation trashed.
07-23-2025 | 12:37 PM
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07-23-2025 | 02:08 PM
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I agree that gender has no bearing on incidents like this. “Pilot” or “crew member” would have sufficed.
As an employee of a reputationally hard drinking airline, the days of old are mostly gone—but it doesn’t take much to get in trouble these days. We all know the textbook measures for the various “what if” scenarios but many still get tagged, some needlessly so.
I have empathy for these situations—in this case a lawsuit may be forthcoming.
By all means, if you need help please get it. That goes for addiction, stress, physical health etc. You are too valuable to needlessly suffer!
As an employee of a reputationally hard drinking airline, the days of old are mostly gone—but it doesn’t take much to get in trouble these days. We all know the textbook measures for the various “what if” scenarios but many still get tagged, some needlessly so.
I have empathy for these situations—in this case a lawsuit may be forthcoming.
By all means, if you need help please get it. That goes for addiction, stress, physical health etc. You are too valuable to needlessly suffer!
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07-23-2025 | 02:48 PM
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Wow, what is a false positive on an alcohol test? They did a breathalyzer and then a blood test? I’d imagine Delta would be out for money too. That one article said Delta, under EU rules, is out near $400k in passenger fines as well as hotel and meal fees for all passengers. Delta also has a brand to protect. Europe is pretty ridiculous, things like this only add to the stereotype. They didn’t have a way to figure this out before it turned into a few million dollar mishap and defame a Delta pilot?
07-23-2025 | 02:53 PM
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Excellent. Now take nine steps, heel-to-toe, along a straight line, turn on one foot and return nine steps in the opposite direction. A subject may be impaired if they:
- Begin before the instructions are finished
- Cannot keep balance while listening to the instructions
- Do not touch heel-to-toe
- Lose balance while turning
- Stop while walking to regain balance
- Take an incorrect number of steps
- Use arms to balance
07-23-2025 | 03:15 PM
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Thats a bit of an old wives tail and might refer more to the legal side. It’s more of a case by case basis. There have also been many pilots relapse and still get another chance. I know one who went through the program 3 times. Self reporting and entering the program can give a pilot more options than if it is mandatory following an incident.
Alcohol is a serious drug addiction but because it’s legal is often not viewed in the same light as other addictions. Most pilots are intelligent enough to know if they have an alcohol issue but just won’t quite acknowledge it and taking that step to self report is very difficult. If you pack a bottle for a trip or feel the need to consume alcohol almost every day it might be time for some self reflection. My family has a terrible record with alcohol which has kept me cautious. Most alcoholics are blissfully unaware of the effects their drinking has on their family. Pilots at Delta are very lucky to have the HIMS program. Getting those who need it into the program is the hard part.
Alcohol is a serious drug addiction but because it’s legal is often not viewed in the same light as other addictions. Most pilots are intelligent enough to know if they have an alcohol issue but just won’t quite acknowledge it and taking that step to self report is very difficult. If you pack a bottle for a trip or feel the need to consume alcohol almost every day it might be time for some self reflection. My family has a terrible record with alcohol which has kept me cautious. Most alcoholics are blissfully unaware of the effects their drinking has on their family. Pilots at Delta are very lucky to have the HIMS program. Getting those who need it into the program is the hard part.
07-23-2025 | 03:33 PM
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“I’m going to the hotel, I’ll contact you when I feel recovered from this incident”
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