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hockeypilot44 10-01-2025 06:29 PM


Originally Posted by SpeedyG2 (Post 3955451)
Sometime they don’t even run GS they go straight for IA

I know. Then everyone should get paid something.

FangsF15 10-02-2025 03:47 AM


Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 3955506)
I know. Then everyone should get paid something.

In larger categories, that would be a minute, or maybe two of pay each. Might be a little too thin, and then you’d really see a lot of no-intention-to-fly blanket/ proffer-WS in the system to ‘collect what you can’. Unless you just dumped those dollars into a jar that literally paid everyone an equal share?

I have no problem with the senior pilots getting the full trip value, but it should trickle down, with a counter like GS, maybe with a days-of-pay balancer. But certainly not 4-5 pilots gobbling up 120+ hours for flying 2-3 days a month.

The main point is that it should be expensive for the company to skip the normal coverage ladder, right?. How we spread out those dollars is an interesting debate.

tennisguru 10-02-2025 03:51 AM


Originally Posted by FangsF15 (Post 3955560)
In larger categories, that would be a minute, or maybe two of pay each. Might be a little too thin, and then you’d really see a lot of no-intention-to-fly blanket/ proffer-WS in the system to ‘collect what you can’. Unless you just dumped those dollars into a jar that literally paid everyone an equal share?

I have no problem with the senior pilots getting the full trip value, but it should trickle down, with a counter like GS, maybe with a days-of-pay balancer. But certainly not 4-5 pilots gobbling up 120+ hours for flying 2-3 days a month.

The main point is that it should be expensive for the company to skip the normal coverage ladder, right?. How we spread out those dollars is an interesting debate.

Yes. The simplest fix is to treat it just like they handle being out sick and then trying to get a GS - make it like the senior pilot actually flew the skipped rotation. They would then be ineligible for any futher 23M7 payments for rotations that they wouldn't have been legal for had they flown the first skipped rotation.

FangsF15 10-02-2025 04:04 AM


Originally Posted by tennisguru (Post 3955562)
Yes. The simplest fix is to treat it just like they handle being out sick and then trying to get a GS - make it like the senior pilot actually flew the skipped rotation. They would then be ineligible for any futher 23M7 payments for rotations that they wouldn't have been legal for had they flown the first skipped rotation.

Thats a good, zero cost to the company, idea.

tennisguru 10-02-2025 05:32 AM


Originally Posted by FangsF15 (Post 3955565)
Thats a good, zero cost to the company, idea.

Heck it probably saves them some money as they would be paying more people further down the pay scale. I'm assuming most 23m7 payments right now are going to people on the top of the scale.

FangsF15 10-02-2025 06:16 AM


Originally Posted by tennisguru (Post 3955609)
Heck it probably saves them some money as they would be paying more people further down the pay scale. I'm assuming most 23m7 payments right now are going to people on the top of the scale.

Yeah, let's polish that copper penny up They'll bite off on that like that dog in UP! - "Squirrel!!!!"


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