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cactusmike 08-30-2025 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 3943974)
Who really cares about a side stick in a transport category airplane? Do you grab it fantasizing your call sign is viper?

Tells me you’ve never flown an airbus. Tray tables are civilized.

Having said that, Boeing FBW systems are superior to Airbi. But the triple and the 78 should have had a side stick.

Airbus sidesticks do have the priority capability as well as announcing dual input. Most of the supposed control issues can be solved with the simple declaration « my controls » .

Jughead135 08-30-2025 09:06 PM


Originally Posted by cactusmike (Post 3943981)
Airbus sidesticks do have the priority capability as well as announcing dual input.

The “DUAL INPUT” annunciation is relatively new—I think it was hastened by the Air France accident under discussion?

theUpsideDown 08-30-2025 09:35 PM

FO kept stealing control of the plane from the lance captain, it wasnt systems knowledge that would save them. If the fo in the left seat could get some feeling/warning the guy on the right was deepinging the stall he could have saved them. 35000 ft in the air and homeboy shoots for 15degree nose up because he sorta remembers a recovery techique for a situation they werent in.

at least a connected sidestick and the guy on the left could talk the idiot down from killing everyone.

DWC CAP10 USAF 08-31-2025 04:03 AM


Originally Posted by Jughead135 (Post 3944004)
The “DUAL INPUT” annunciation is relatively new—I think it was hastened by the Air France accident under discussion?

It existed back then…”Dual Input” is shown 6 times on the CVR transcript between 02:12:59 and 02:14:03

FangsF15 08-31-2025 04:47 AM


Originally Posted by Freds Ex (Post 3943941)
that incident would not have resulted in 228 fatalities on an aircraft with a yoke, do you disagree?

Maybe, maybe not. A Yoke didn’t help Atlas 3591, which would have still been fatal from a meaningfully higher altitude than they were at. Maybe with “Normal Law” limits of 15 degrees NL, that wouldn’t have happened.

And two 737 Max’s would not have killed 346 people with an extra AOA probe or two. Or more knowledge of this little thing called MCAS. Or…

I mean, we can come up with all kinds of darts to throw at boards. Accidents happen, and we learn from them. And we have. A lot. This poo-flinging at Airbus or Boeing design philosophy is silly and nonproductive.

Jonny Drama 08-31-2025 03:35 PM


Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 3943974)
Who really cares about a side stick in a transport category airplane? Do you grab it fantasizing your call sign is viper?

LOLWUT… Gross, I make fun of the guys that still use their super hero names. All civilian here boo, All I am saying it is much nicer to have a tray table to eat off of than a logbook. I did about 9000 hours of a yoke in the way. The last 4000 without one have been way better! With 20 years to go I don’t see myself ever getting a Boeing type rating.

notEnuf 08-31-2025 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by Jonny Drama (Post 3944170)
LOLWUT… Gross, I make fun of the guys that still use their super hero names. All civilian here boo, All I am saying it is much nicer to have a tray table to eat off of than a logbook. I did about 9000 hours of a yoke in the way. The last 4000 without one have been way better! With 20 years to go I don’t see myself ever getting a Boeing type rating.

You do you brah. Just throwing back the shade. Autobus... eewwww.

Nantonaku 08-31-2025 08:12 PM


Originally Posted by Jonny Drama (Post 3944170)
LOLWUT… Gross, I make fun of the guys that still use their super hero names. All civilian here boo, All I am saying it is much nicer to have a tray table to eat off of than a logbook. I did about 9000 hours of a yoke in the way. The last 4000 without one have been way better! With 20 years to go I don’t see myself ever getting a Boeing type rating.

Because of a yoke and tray table? Weird flex.

Jonny Drama 09-01-2025 07:42 AM


Originally Posted by Nantonaku (Post 3944226)
Because of a yoke and tray table? Weird flex.

Do you still go by your super hero name??

FangsF15 09-01-2025 07:50 AM

[mod input] Let's get back on topic, please. Enough mud-slinging.


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