Age 67 Thread Drift
 

Does the threat of 67 influence
1. senior upgrades so pilots can get in before the music stops?
2. junior upgrades for fear of stagnation?
3. I don't read podcasts or listen to emails is 67 being discussed again?

No matter what ICAO does I imagine any regulatory changes would likely get tagged onto an FAA Reauth bill. So don’t think there’s any immediate change on the near horizon.

disagree. If ICAO changes to 67 the US would probably change the law here within a month or 2. Just like they did for 65.

allowing foreign pilots to fly to 67 in us airspace while restricting US pilots from doing the same would be an age discrimination lawsuit slam dunk.

Okay. I have heard literally no one talk about age 67. I think it would be close to 50/50. Half would support it or simply be indifferent and the other half would oppose it. Perhaps there would be some tweaks to our PWA if the pilots and ALPA decide that the majority are against it.

it’s definitely out there. POTUS just appointed a representative to ICAO who is a recently retired DL CA and age 67 advocate. Then there is congressman Nehls from Texas who has a brother who is a double digit seniority number WB CA. Rep. Nehls is a big supporter of the current administration.

remember, any tweaks would have to be in line with federal age discrimination laws. If the FAA raises the age, there isn’t a whole lot DL or ALPA can do that would be both legal and only affect those over 65. that is, unless a federal law explicitly allows it.

for example we cannot have our LTD end at a certain age. Any cuts to LTD would have to affect a 35 year old and a 65 year old equally.

same with having your seniority reset at a certain age. Not legal.

small correction: nehls is a rep, not senator

yep, good catch

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About 2 years ago when there was a real threat of them sneaking 67 into the reauthorozation bill, i put in for a junior upgrade for fear of stagnation. I could have waited a bit more but seeing how there was not much NB-A movement since I finished training I'm glad I did. I personally don't see it as a threat anymore, but if it does get closer to reality I suspect a combination of #1 and #2, with the junior ones having to be ok with long term juniority in case the door slams shut behind them shortly after.

I saw the article. Is that the same pilot who was a former MEC negotiator? Has a common name.

Yes. Same guy.