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10-31-2025 | 10:36 AM
#23
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Why don’t you tell us why? I am sure you will saying it had nothing to do with The Japanese government opening Haneda up for international flights and an overwhelming shift in the preference for high yield travelers to use that airport rather than Narita. I enjoyed flying those see Asia trips and specifically asked why we were giving up on Narita at a road show. They tossed some numbers out with how much money we were losing. I don’t remember the number but it was staggering.
10-31-2025 | 11:16 AM
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Why don’t you tell us why? I am sure you will saying it had nothing to do with The Japanese government opening Haneda up for international flights and an overwhelming shift in the preference for high yield travelers to use that airport rather than Narita. I enjoyed flying those see Asia trips and specifically asked why we were giving up on Narita at a road show. They tossed some numbers out with how much money we were losing. I don’t remember the number but it was staggering.
10-31-2025 | 11:48 AM
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Very skeptical of this. Haneda is a royal PIA to get to for millions and millions of people in the Kanto area. Narita is cheaper and very easy to get to for millions. Basically Tokyo and north it is quicker, easier and more comfortable to go to Narita. Taken a flight to Tokyo lately? Basically all leisure now and all DH crew or PSUP in D1. If they were losing money at Narita they are losing that same money at Haneda. If the inter Asian flying was losing money that has nothing to do with Narita. For most people the airports are the same. If they worked at the north end of the city you’d want to use Narita. If you worked on the south side you’d want to use Haneda.
All right this just isn’t true. I fly to HND a fair bit and we’re nearly always full in D1. A quick look at travelnet can prove it. Sure for a lot of people and NRT is going to be closer. Remember Stewart Airport in New York, the next best thing the reliever airport to solve all the problems. Sure it would be a lot closer for a lot of people, but it never materialized. The reality is as sailing said the company was losing a lot of money hubbing out of NRT. The Japanese found a workaround by building additional runways at HND (at great expense), but they managed to make that the preferred airport. Simple as that.
11-12-2025 | 12:03 PM
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All right this just isn’t true. I fly to HND a fair bit and we’re nearly always full in D1. A quick look at travelnet can prove it. Sure for a lot of people and NRT is going to be closer. Remember Stewart Airport in New York, the next best thing the reliever airport to solve all the problems. Sure it would be a lot closer for a lot of people, but it never materialized. The reality is as sailing said the company was losing a lot of money hubbing out of NRT. The Japanese found a workaround by building additional runways at HND (at great expense), but they managed to make that the preferred airport. Simple as that.
11-12-2025 | 04:41 PM
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That has nothing to do with the airport or the airport location. Like I said a massive part of the Kanto plain would prefer Narita over Haneda. Why would a business man want to fight for a seat on a subway with no room for luggage over taking a reserved seat luxury train to the airport? Anywhere north of Tokyo station is the same timewise. Driving is better to Narita for all these people because you don’t have to drive through the meat of the city fighting traffic. So it is true. Talk to someone who lives in Ueno or Saitama.
11-14-2025 | 10:58 AM
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BOS - ICN (swore I read it somewhere with JFK/LAX, can’t find cite).
Lot of which has to do with Asiana + Korean merger finalizing.
AUS - CDG (less confirmed per JonNYC)
https://x.com/xjonnyc/status/1958896...M7wY-k2oRc_1EA
LAX - SIN & MNL
ATL - RUH
ATL - DEL
Both confirmed by management, but no announced start date
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