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GutterGuard 12-02-2025 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by ShegotheD (Post 3975730)
The beginning of the end, DTW717 RIP.

This matches what I've heard from reliable sources. Expect an announcement about the DTW717 base closing sometime in Q3 next year, followed by all the flights transferring to ATL. Apparently, they will operate in ATL until 28 and then gradually phase out, being gone by 30.

They'll spend longer than that ensh1tifying the DTW flying to force as many guys off as possible before MDs.

crewdawg 12-02-2025 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by ShegotheD (Post 3975730)
The beginning of the end, DTW717 RIP.

This matches what I've heard from reliable sources. Expect an announcement about the DTW717 base closing sometime in Q3 next year, followed by all the flights transferring to ATL. Apparently, they will operate in ATL until 28 and then gradually phase out, being gone by 30.


Ya the writing seems to be very on the wall with the lack of backfills on the A side the last few AEs. I suppose this AE will be telling.



Originally Posted by GutterGuard (Post 3975734)
They'll spend longer than that ensh1tifying the DTW flying to force as many guys off as possible before MDs.

Lol ya, kinda like they did to ATL 88 near the end. I remember one month they only build 4 days with all 3 and 4 leg days. Someone screwed up and set the ALV such that 3 x 4 days was below the LCW but 4 was above it. Blank lines for all my friends.

NWA4LIFE 12-02-2025 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by ShegotheD (Post 3975730)
The beginning of the end, DTW717 RIP.

This matches what I've heard from reliable sources. Expect an announcement about the DTW717 base closing sometime in Q3 next year, followed by all the flights transferring to ATL. Apparently, they will operate in ATL until 28 and then gradually phase out, being gone by 30.

are they going to replace the dtw 717 with a dtw 220 eventually as well and then atl 220?

ShegotheD 12-02-2025 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by NWA4LIFE (Post 3975761)
are they going to replace the dtw 717 with a dtw 220 eventually as well and then atl 220?

Unsure, I could see 220s eventually in all bases if they and Canabus can get on the same page, along with PW support. I wouldn't be surprised to see a Baby Max order potentially if they get the MAX7 figured out. If there was something to replace the 717, I think it would already be here. The amount of heavy MX issues we are having is going to drive the fleet away sooner rather than later.

FangsF15 12-02-2025 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 3975723)
It's still my #1 guess for the next one and was my #1 guess even before the BOS330. See how wrong I can be. That should provide comfort for some.

Oh, I fully expect BOS 320 is coming in the relatively near future. Just a matter of when.


Originally Posted by crewdawg (Post 3975748)
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Lol ya, kinda like they did to ATL 88 near the end. I remember one month they only build 4 days with all 3 and 4 leg days. Someone screwed up and set the ALV such that 3 x 4 days was below the LCW but 4 was above it. Blank lines for all my friends.

LOL, they aren't always the smartest in the room... But it's a reminder for those who want to ride the displacement train all the way into the station. It's not all unicorns and rainbows. Yes, you can go 'anywhere you can hold' without a seat lock, and maybe get a paid move, but the last year getting there can be really painful bid packets and QOL. Not worth it for most folks, IMO.

FangsF15 12-02-2025 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by NWA4LIFE (Post 3975761)
are they going to replace the dtw 717 with a dtw 220 eventually as well and then atl 220?

Not sure what the current talk on the fleet is, but not all that long ago, the word was ATL was the very last place the 220 would go, if ever.

Any current intel from those in the know?

notEnuf 12-02-2025 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by FangsF15 (Post 3975798)
Oh, I fully expect BOS 320 is coming in the relatively near future. Just a matter of when.



LOL, they aren't always the smartest in the room... But it's a reminder for those who want to ride the displacement train all the way into the station. It's not all unicorns and rainbows. Yes, you can go 'anywhere you can hold' without a seat lock, and maybe get a paid move, but the last year getting there can be really painful bid packets and QOL. Not worth it for most folks, IMO.

It's really not that bad if you bid RES. If you're holding out for the move VD gets you out before Jr.

CBreezy 12-02-2025 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by FangsF15 (Post 3975800)
Not sure what the current talk on the fleet is, but not all that long ago, the word was ATL was the very last place the 220 would go, if ever.

Any current intel from those in the know?

You mean as a base?

crewdawg 12-02-2025 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by FangsF15 (Post 3975798)
Oh, I fully expect BOS 320 is coming in the relatively near future. Just a matter of when.



LOL, they aren't always the smartest in the room... But it's a reminder for those who want to ride the displacement train all the way into the station. It's not all unicorns and rainbows. Yes, you can go 'anywhere you can hold' without a seat lock, and maybe get a paid move, but the last year getting there can be really painful bid packets and QOL. Not worth it for most folks, IMO.


An FO was asking me about this very thing recently. He was wondering if its good or bad to hang on. I said it depends on how they do it, it could be really good or really bad.

What I fear, is steadily getting more and more junior and getting stuck with no openings where I want to go. I really don't want to get slammed with a summer/fall training date.

Meme In Command 12-02-2025 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by crewdawg (Post 3975827)
An FO was asking me about this very thing recently. He was wondering if its good or bad to hang on. I said it depends on how they do it, it could be really good or really bad.

What I fear, is steadily getting more and more junior and getting stuck with no openings where I want to go. I really don't want to get slammed with a summer/fall training date.

If your category is going away, don't you have to ability to displaced someone?


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