If you VD, you take the seniority of the junior person you're saving. As far as a MD, the catch is that they have to get to you. What I'm saying is if they do a slow draw down, then maybe stop displacements for a while, I could get stuck very junior in seat while I wait for a position I want to open up, OR the MD's to continue. If they displace everyone all at the same time, then it's a non-issue.

I'm guessing it'll be a slow drawdown. No way they displace 250 pilots all at once.

*Drake Voice*

"I run the game like William Wesley you could neva check me, back to back Silvas for da seniors who didn't get da message"

Maybe I’m mis-reading what you wrote, but there is a 3-part distinction (in case anyone is part of a displacement bid):

Sec22.F.6
A pilot who holds a VD may:

a. displace into a category to fill an existing vacancy that their seniority entitles them to hold, (or)

b. displace a pilot junior to them in the same position in a different base, or

c. displace a pilot in any category who:

1) was in such category on the award date of the pilot who holds the VD, and

2) is junior to the pilot whose displacement they volunteered to take.
Either way, you’re right in that if you hang around in a long draw down you could get junior in category real quick. OTOH, reserve in an over-manned category can be massively great QOL.

Both VD and MD get paid moves.
If you need training, a VD is a seat lock, and MD is no seat lock.

I was referencing C.2, but good point on the other two options. I discounted B because I dont ever plan on willingly commuting. A could be a player I guess, but could I then just bid it as an AE?

Disregard wrong thread

Be aware that if you are in a category with displacements and that is your preference do not have anything in your regular AE bid preference page. AE’s are run before any displacements are run. Many pilots are unaware of this and get a AE into the exact category they could have received a MD into. You then lose all displacement benefits. Even worse you might get a bid into something you no longer want that you forgot was on your AE page. I saw this bite lots of guys who just assumed displacements would be run first.

Generally speaking, if you don’t need the paid move, your AE should match your VD and the results should be the same.

If you are base changing and trying to snag a paid move, in a category with displacements, I would delete the AE part and just have a MD and VD.

The MD has no seat lock if training is required. Some will delete the AE and VD to have guaranteed no seat lock. If it’s a slow chug to close the category, a seat lock might be less painful than the QOL waiting for the category to close.

Lots to consider if you (or anyone) get into the displacement scenario.

The word is the 220 will NEVER base in ATL unless it's the last stand. The heavy metal covers all of FL so we don't want to take seats away from that. The Canabus is more efficient on the "long skinny" routes between business destinations and 2+ hr lengths. The 717, for now, covers anything shorter, but the 220 is being pressed into replacement service faster due to the 717 monthly inspections and longer stage lengths out of there. The 220, right now, only does IAD, SBA, and BUR from ATL. The schefule for MSP in December is larger than other bases, hence the opening. There are a lot of commuters in MSP that have been patiently waiting for the opening and I hope every one gets in though it'll be sad not to fly with them, again. I just hope this opens holes on other fleets for some back fills.

My memory is pretty hazy but I believe we've kicked more than that out of a category at once, even outside of CV19. With our current lack of hiring, there are plenty of sims open. I suspect we'll see a fair amount of pilots bail to MSP220 and ATL717 as well, so that would dampen the blow. However, I think you're right that they'll unwind it slowly and hope for many to just AE out. With that method, there will be some winners and some losers.