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Originally Posted by CBreezy
(Post 4019415)
Oh. We aren't allowed to have opinions here? Only you? By all means, continue.
I'm back on topic now. Can't wait to read the email on Monday. |
Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo
(Post 4019410)
I don't think it implies that.
the nuances here are the company really really wants something and our MEC/NC are measuring and tempering their public messaging This like what your second contract here? Personally, I think it’s the wrong approach. Time is on our side as management continues to sweat through massive coverage costs. But I’ll withhold further judgement until details are released. |
Originally Posted by ancman
(Post 4019419)
The Engage podcast is much clearer than the email in stating that this is the approach ALPA is seeking.
Personally, I think it’s the wrong approach. Time is on our side as management continues to sweat through massive coverage costs. But I’ll withhold further judgement until details are released. |
Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo
(Post 4019421)
Disagree. If it wasn't condusive they wouldn't mention the potential of it. The company wants something. If we can stitch it up in short order all the better.
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Originally Posted by ancman
(Post 4019422)
Auto accept is the single most valuable piece of leverage this pilot group has ever had. Management will do everything they can to pry it out of our hands at a discount. Pushing a mediocre, limited scope, short term deal that plays on the fears of a “forever war” will be their first step.
I'll see myself out until Monday. |
Originally Posted by ancman
(Post 4019419)
The Engage podcast is much clearer than the email in stating that this is the approach ALPA is seeking.
Personally, I think it’s the wrong approach. Time is on our side as management continues to sweat through massive coverage costs. But I’ll withhold further judgement until details are released. Nothing ever happens in negotiations until Bastian wants it done. If he wants it done early, the only question is if they're willing to pay a premium for it. If not, back to Plan A, I guess. Maybe Bastian wants this off his plate so he can coast into retirement and focus on the important thing: finding his next stewardess baby mamma. It's got to be worth our while, though. |
Originally Posted by ancman
(Post 4019422)
Auto accept is the single most valuable piece of leverage this pilot group has ever had. Management will do everything they can to pry it out of our hands at a discount. Pushing a mediocre, limited scope, short-term deal that plays on the fears of a “forever war” will be their first step.
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
(Post 4019430)
It’s leverage but in order to cash in that leverage, you have to sell it and let it go. Holding onto the leverage indefinitely does not get us a deal.
They won’t be doing that anytime soon. If the MEC stays true to their word, then this is going to be a long cycle. I’m fine with that. |
Originally Posted by ancman
(Post 4019433)
Right, but cashing it in for limited, short-term patchwork would be malfeasance. Management could take back auto-accept on Monday if they’re willing to sign a comprehensive, long-term deal that blows away the rest of the industry.
They won’t be doing that anytime soon. If ALPA stays true to their stated word, this is going to be a long cycle. I’m fine with that. |
Originally Posted by CBreezy
(Post 4019434)
Why are we assuming a long term deal is a good thing? Anything longer than 3 years is considered detrimental to pilot groups. A short term deal will certainly not be shorter than 2.
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