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Originally Posted by crewdawg
(Post 4019449)
Why not wait and see what they put up before we start calling it a loss?
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Originally Posted by m3113n1a1
(Post 4019456)
I already know I'm VOTING NO!!!! CONCESSIONARY CONTRACT!!
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I’m a no unless the 787s go to AUS.
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When do we start picketing? I at least want a lanyard.
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So hats off tomorrow???
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Originally Posted by m3113n1a1
(Post 4019456)
I already know I'm VOTING NO!!!! CONCESSIONARY CONTRACT!!
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Originally Posted by Verdell
(Post 4019445)
I haven't been here to long enough to qualify that statement, but it sure as heck is valuable.
I still stand by my not-particularly-prophetic statement that the batch size giveaway of 2023 that led to the rise of auto-accept may have been a subtly brilliant move by DALPA. Time will tell. https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/3...-post1087.html And yea, all the auto-accept haters (past and present) will (hopefully) soon be shown that they weren't seeing the forest for the trees. I'm looking forward to seeing what our negotiators cooked up. They 100% did not. But better lucky than good… |
Honest Question: Does the percentage at which the previous contract pass influence the starting point of new negotiations? Consider our last cycle: When a pilot group votes overwhelmingly in favor for a TA, how does that set up the next cycle of negotiations? Would a vote like that make it more or less challenging for ALPA negotiators to make the case that pilots are demanding changes to that contract language in the next cycle? Seems like they’d walk in and be like, “Our guys voted 90%+ in favor for the previous contract, but let me tell you why it’s a piece of sh*t and we’re demanding changes to it now!” How seriously does Delta take that claim? The way I see it, the Company would be entering new negotiations with a mindset that pilots just got most of what they asked for in the previous contract, therefore why give the pilots two slamdunks in a row?
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Any “expedited contract” should come with a Flight ops shakeup and “leaving to pursue other opportunities”. The management style has harmed the Brand, our reliability, our NPS, our QOL, and ultimately our bottom line. Hey Chris H…Delta Pilot BOD member…. Have a conversation with the Board about what’s going on behind the scenes and covered up by passing the buck and denial of reality. The MEC Chair should have the same conversation with Ed.
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Originally Posted by Softheborder
(Post 4019548)
Any “expedited contract” should come with a Flight ops shakeup and “leaving to pursue other opportunities”. The management style has harmed the Brand, our reliability, our NPS, our QOL, and ultimately our bottom line. Hey Chris H…Delta Pilot BOD member…. Have a conversation with the Board about what’s going on behind the scenes and covered up by passing the buck and denial of reality. The MEC Chair should have the same conversation with Ed.
An old reservist UPT IP of mine said that every General needed some crusty, passed over Major (read: isn't concerned about career advancement) at his side to tell him when something is stupid, a terrible idea, or to give him the reality at the operational level. Sounds like the pilot member of the BOD needs the same. |
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