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Originally Posted by Gunfighter
(Post 4019627)
Which generation? Some of the posters here sat in gas lines longer than EV charging times.
Venezuela can match Iran's output in 18 months. Bypass routes for gulf state oil can currently cover 30 percent of the Hormuz volume. We all hear "20% of worlds oil...." but the real impact is smaller due to alternatives. This could be the beginning of a long term reshaping of global energy trade. Venezuela's oil infrastructure is in a state of generational decay. Peak production was 3.5 million bpd in the late 1990s. Current production is approximately 800k-900k bpd and structurally challenged. The pipelines, separation facilities, and upgraders needed to process Venezuela's extra-heavy Orinoco crude are severely deteriorated. Iran was producing 3.2-3.5 million bpd of easier to process crude. Venezuela's Orinoco crude is so heavy it requires specialized upgraders to make it refinable. Most of those upgraders are offline or operating at fraction of capacity. Building or restoring upgrader capacity alone takes 3-5 years minimum even with unlimited capital. Venezuela replacing Iran in 18 months is fantasy. 5-7 years at minimum for meaningful incremental production at scale. Your entire argument is doing what most casual energy analysis does, evaluating the oil volume problem in isolation. The 70% that cannot be bypassed doesn't just disappear into a rounding error. That's 14 million bpd of crude and products with nowhere to go. The LNG omission is the most glaring omission of this argument. Qatar's LNG cannot use any bypass route. There is no East-West LNG pipeline. Every molecule of Qatari LNG goes through Hormuz or doesn't go anywhere. |
Originally Posted by GutterGuard
(Post 4019633)
Man it must suck to view the world through your lense. What blood pressure meds do they have you on?
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Originally Posted by Trip7
(Post 4019600)
I HOPE IM WRONG
But I don't think any deal is reached with jet fuel at $200/barrel and poised to go significantly higher. Americans and the market right now are extremely complacent about what's coming if this middle east crisis is not resolved very soon. It will be the greatest energy crisis of our generation. One for the history books. And we are all sleep walking right into it. If 20% of the world's Oil, Gas, and Fertilizer supply remains offline a pilot contract will be among the LEAST of our worries. PREPARE YOURSELVES |
Originally Posted by Gunfighter
(Post 4019627)
Which generation? Some of the posters here sat in gas lines longer than EV charging times.
Venezuela can match Iran's output in 18 months. Bypass routes for gulf state oil can currently cover 30 percent of the Hormuz volume. We all hear "20% of worlds oil...." but the real impact is smaller due to alternatives. This could be the beginning of a long term reshaping of global energy trade. The Iranians know a couple of things now that they didn't before, they can't trust America to negotiate in good faith and they have to build a nuclear bomb now, America is an existential threat to them. |
Originally Posted by Cleared4appch
(Post 4019636)
Lol my thoughts exactly. Too many pilots spend too much of their time glued to the ‘news’ or onto their phones throughout the day and don’t get out enough. He needs to get a hobby or something. Get outside and go for a walk, spend time with loved ones, etc. Too many of us get ourselves all riled up unnecessarily. More and more pilots just need to relax. It’d be great for all of us collectively.
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Originally Posted by GutterGuard
(Post 4019633)
Man it must suck to view the world through your lense. What blood pressure meds do they have you on?
Remember I am frequently criticized on here for being too optimistic. I forecasted Delta's WB fleet expansion years ago albeit I was early. I frequently comment on here about how much of the complaining is trivial for the money we are paid for this fantastic job. Make no mistake, Delta is by far in the best position to handle this crisis, and Delta pilots are affluent enough to financially withstand the storm that could be coming. As someone who gladly paid $2000 to St Jude for being too early on Delta WB Captain positions expanding, to 2014 hires, I hope that I am wrong again, but I'm afraid I'm not. Energy, from the shirts that we wear to the fuel in our jets, touches every single part of modern life. And the world is about to be reminded of that. |
Originally Posted by Trip7
(Post 4019634)
This statement shows either a misunderstanding or fundamental lack of knowledge about Oil markets.
Venezuela's oil infrastructure is in a state of generational decay. Peak production was 3.5 million bpd in the late 1990s. Current production is approximately 800k-900k bpd and structurally challenged. The pipelines, separation facilities, and upgraders needed to process Venezuela's extra-heavy Orinoco crude are severely deteriorated. Iran was producing 3.2-3.5 million bpd of easier to process crude. Venezuela's Orinoco crude is so heavy it requires specialized upgraders to make it refinable. Most of those upgraders are offline or operating at fraction of capacity. Building or restoring upgrader capacity alone takes 3-5 years minimum even with unlimited capital. Venezuela replacing Iran in 18 months is fantasy. 5-7 years at minimum for meaningful incremental production at scale. Your entire argument is doing what most casual energy analysis does, evaluating the oil volume problem in isolation. The 70% that cannot be bypassed doesn't just disappear into a rounding error. That's 14 million bpd of crude and products with nowhere to go. The LNG omission is the most glaring omission of this argument. Qatar's LNG cannot use any bypass route. There is no East-West LNG pipeline. Every molecule of Qatari LNG goes through Hormuz or doesn't go anywhere. Like Goggles said, I'm still waiting for the sky to fall from Tarriff's last year. Ever hear of the Black Swan who cried "WOLF!" That's not to say there won't be pain from the consequences of this action, but much/most of the country just ain't buying the constant doom and gloom. Media who just need to feed the rage bait for clicks. I mean, CNN is nothing but negative, even with one of the most impressive and overwhelmingly one-sided major military actions in modern history. By this point in Desert Storm, the allies had lost over 30 aircraft to enemy fire. Even in snatching Maduro, CNN (and many others) could not bring themselves to say anything meaningfully positive. I just want some media that is fair, and calls honest balls and strikes. But the current media has abandoned the middle ground. |
Originally Posted by FangsF15
(Post 4019654)
And you think Qatar is going to just sit there and mope?
Like Goggles said, I'm still waiting for the sky to fall from Tarriff's last year. Ever hear of the Black Swan who cried "WOLF!" That's not to say there won't be pain from the consequences of this action, but much/most of the country just ain't buying the constant doom and gloom. Media who just need to feed the rage bait for clicks. I mean, CNN is nothing but negative, even with one of the most impressive and overwhelmingly one-sided major military actions in modern history. By this point in Desert Storm, the allies had lost over 30 aircraft to enemy fire. Even in snatching Maduro, CNN (and many others) could not bring themselves to say anything meaningfully positive. I just want some media that is fair, and calls honest balls and strikes. But the current media has abandoned the middle ground. I agree the Western Media is terrible so I pay them very little attention. I just look at the Energy assets affected and the data. The numbers are UGLY. Alas everyone in the US thinks energy grows on trees and unicorn urine and are unaware of the pain coming |
Originally Posted by FangsF15
(Post 4019654)
And you think Qatar is going to just sit there and mope?
Like Goggles said, I'm still waiting for the sky to fall from Tarriff's last year. Ever hear of the Black Swan who cried "WOLF!" That's not to say there won't be pain from the consequences of this action, but much/most of the country just ain't buying the constant doom and gloom. Media who just need to feed the rage bait for clicks. I mean, CNN is nothing but negative, even with one of the most impressive and overwhelmingly one-sided major military actions in modern history. By this point in Desert Storm, the allies had lost over 30 aircraft to enemy fire. Even in snatching Maduro, CNN (and many others) could not bring themselves to say anything meaningfully positive. I just want some media that is fair, and calls honest balls and strikes. But the current media has abandoned the middle ground. Barring a ground invasion Iran has the ability to close the strait and wreak havoc on major energy infrastructure all over the Middle East, and it’s clear that there is nothing we can do about it. Hence the increasingly desperate and disjointed comms from the administration. Every day the regime survives it puts us in a tighter and tighter bind. |
Originally Posted by Trip7
(Post 4019660)
Qatar's has lost 17% of its production due to damage incurred that will take 3-5 years to repair. UAE and Qatar can't do anything but protect themselves as much as they can and hope for a peace deal.
I agree the Western Media is terrible so I pay them very little attention. I just look at the Energy assets affected and the data. The numbers are UGLY. Alas everyone in the US thinks energy grows on trees and unicorn urine and are unaware of the pain coming Again, not saying there won't be paid or consequences. Just that the cries of doom, doom, and black swans are grossly premature (at best).
Originally Posted by Extenda
(Post 4019664)
I really don’t think any media outlet is disputing that we have total military dominance of the skies. But it doesn’t matter how many JDAMS fall on increasingly irrelevant targets. We can’t bomb ourselves to a solution here.
Barring a ground invasion Iran has the ability to close the strait and wreak havoc on major energy infrastructure all over the Middle East, and it’s clear that there is nothing we can do about it. Hence the increasingly desperate and disjointed comms from the administration. Every day the regime survives it puts us in a tighter and tighter bind. Qatar used to play both sides, and did the banking for proxies, and housed thier leaders living in luxury. Think that will continue? I don't. |
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