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Originally Posted by Uninteresting
(Post 4025222)
are we talking about dating here?
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
(Post 4025235)
Soft, but respectful, disagree here. It’s not a co-equal partnership. Sorry, it’s just not. Especially with the more historic slope of upgrades.
I’m not going to refuse your return gesture, though I will put up a tacit defense at least once. 😉. Just like my kids occasionally wanting to pick up dinner. I appreciate they are trying to demonstrate their ability to ‘adult’. But it’s not equal. I won’t allow a 50/50 split over time when my ability to pay is so much greater. But I fully agree it would be rude for them not to be allowed to sometimes. Maybe that will change someday, when I’m old and they are changing my diaper… 😂 |
Before you know it, FOs will be expecting captains to do walk arounds and buy them dinner.😂
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I’m still trying to figure out if FO’s really pull down $300k here normally? Seems like an exaggeration, definitely believe there are WB FO’s that can do that easy but are the majority of 3-5 year NB FO’s really doing that? Feel like I never made that as an FO.
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Originally Posted by demon llama
(Post 4025258)
at the bar in hover hotel it’s an equal relationship. I understand your over all point tho.
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Originally Posted by Nantonaku
(Post 4025272)
I’m still trying to figure out if FO’s really pull down $300k here normally? Seems like an exaggeration, definitely believe there are WB FO’s that can do that easy but are the majority of 3-5 year NB FO’s really doing that? Feel like I never made that as an FO.
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Originally Posted by Nantonaku
(Post 4025272)
I’m still trying to figure out if FO’s really pull down $300k here normally? Seems like an exaggeration, definitely believe there are WB FO’s that can do that easy but are the majority of 3-5 year NB FO’s really doing that? Feel like I never made that as an FO.
It's no stretch of the imagination for one to make $300k in flight pay if they click some buttons in iCrew and fly some premium. That's not even thinking about profit sharing. |
Originally Posted by Nantonaku
(Post 4025272)
I’m still trying to figure out if FO’s really pull down $300k here normally? Seems like an exaggeration, definitely believe there are WB FO’s that can do that easy but are the majority of 3-5 year NB FO’s really doing that? Feel like I never made that as an FO.
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Originally Posted by Nantonaku
(Post 4025272)
I’m still trying to figure out if FO’s really pull down $300k here normally? Seems like an exaggeration, definitely believe there are WB FO’s that can do that easy but are the majority of 3-5 year NB FO’s really doing that? Feel like I never made that as an FO.
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Originally Posted by Nantonaku
(Post 4025272)
I’m still trying to figure out if FO’s really pull down $300k here normally? Seems like an exaggeration, definitely believe there are WB FO’s that can do that easy but are the majority of 3-5 year NB FO’s really doing that? Feel like I never made that as an FO.
Now if you're got family or wife that fills your days off with activities.. it's gonna be a lot harder. |
Originally Posted by m3113n1a1
(Post 4025277)
I fly with lots who are easily making 300k. Live in base, hustle a little and it's not hard at all.
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After perusing this thread I’m now going to have to insist that FOs buy me a coffee from now on.
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Originally Posted by Nantonaku
(Post 4025272)
I’m still trying to figure out if FO’s really pull down $300k here normally? Seems like an exaggeration, definitely believe there are WB FO’s that can do that easy but are the majority of 3-5 year NB FO’s really doing that? Feel like I never made that as an FO.
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Since we’re talking about senior/junior has anyone done a wellness check on meme in command? Normally any discussion of seniority in seat brings him like flies at a picnic.
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Originally Posted by Nantonaku
(Post 4025272)
I’m still trying to figure out if FO’s really pull down $300k here normally? Seems like an exaggeration, definitely believe there are WB FO’s that can do that easy but are the majority of 3-5 year NB FO’s really doing that? Feel like I never made that as an FO.
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Originally Posted by tennisguru
(Post 4025149)
One thing I’ve learned personally as I’ve matured is that a part of being well-rounded emotionally is having the capacity to accept the generosity of others, even when I am not in any form of need. Many times the person being generous (in this case, by buying dinner) gets more satisfaction and enjoyment than the person receiving the generosity. Pushing back against someone trying to be generous robs them of some level of happiness brought by being generous. So in any normal situation I’ve learned to just graciously accept when someone wants to do a kind gesture for me, again even when I am not in any sort of want or need. Obviously there are limits, like I’m not going to let someone ruin their own financial life for my sake, but that’s not what anyone here is talking about.
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I'll buy as long as they tip the van driver. I haven't flown with new hires in a while but more than a few post-Covid hires refused to do this.
Tradition and all. |
Originally Posted by beernutt
(Post 4025317)
Since we’re talking about senior/junior has anyone done a wellness check on meme in command? .
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
(Post 4025448)
Or Ooff. I haven't seen his posts in a while.
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
(Post 4025449)
Looks like ooof is in timeout. The last post was 3/10 so it might be permanent. I hope it isn't
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
(Post 4025449)
Looks like ooof is in timeout. The last post was 3/10 so it might be permanent. I hope it isn't
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
(Post 4025451)
Holy Crap he's banned! What did he do? I didn't always agree with the guy but, banned?
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
(Post 4025451)
Holy Crap he's banned! What did he do? I didn't always agree with the guy but, banned?
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
(Post 4025454)
Banned doesn't always mean permanent. I hope this is the case of a time out
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Originally Posted by biigD
(Post 4025484)
Wait a minute, aren't you two the same guy? ;)
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
(Post 4025447)
I'll buy as long as they tip the van driver. I haven't flown with new hires in a while but more than a few post-Covid hires refused to do this.
Tradition and all. |
Originally Posted by crewdawg
(Post 4025237)
Holy crap, the things people worry about. I just learned that there is a group of people that think it's disrespectful to ask "so what do you do" (for work), in conversation when meeting someone new. I just see it as a nice conversation starter that usually leads to family, hobbies, etc... All it showed me is that people get worked up over the dumbest stuff. If a Captain offers to buy, take them up on it, they're not doing it to extract anything. If the FO offers a coffee, take them up on it as well. It all works itself out in the end and it's just beyond ridiculous to worry about these things. I guess you can add this to the list of reasons I much prefer to just do turns and never overnight lol.
Post written after a good friend/squadron mate/Deltoid/APC dweller showed up to my house unannounced with a six pack that has now been downed. He's even an FO, so I guess I shouldn't have let him buy the beers we drank. :D Do be flexible... there are some FO's who are way better off than some CA's. Maybe they politely decline, especially if everybody knows the lay of the land. Some CA's may be not well off at all (divorce, family illness, etc)... maybe that guy doesn't offer to buy, and that's OK too. If dinner/drinks is even up for discussion, then two people already decided *not* to slam-click, so it shouldn't be that hard to sort out. If somebody offers to buy a coffee, just accept if you want one. We can all afford Starbucks these days. |
Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 4025497)
I certainly wouldn't assume someone is trying to "control" me, because If I'm the one offering to buy I'm just somewhere on the spectrum of being nice, doing what's expected, or paying it forward. Most people aren't doing it to control.
To place “control freak” as one of the more plausible/likely explanations is to really, really, overthink this. |
Originally Posted by Khantahr
(Post 4025488)
Ah yes, tipping van drivers for literally just doing their job. Especially when they're late and don't ever get out of their seat.
Why should a captain buy dinner for a pilot who's "Just doing his job?" They're both "Traditions." |
Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
(Post 4025518)
I tip $1 per bag carried. Or $5 total for a long safe drive. Otherwise no tip (Skyhop to the training center ...) YMMV.
Why should a captain buy dinner for a pilot who's "Just doing his job?" They're both "Traditions." |
Originally Posted by biigD
(Post 4025484)
Wait a minute, aren't you two the same guy? ;)
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Originally Posted by Khantahr
(Post 4025488)
Ah yes, tipping van drivers for literally just doing their job. Especially when they're late and don't ever get out of their seat.
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Originally Posted by Khantahr
(Post 4025488)
Ah yes, tipping van drivers for literally just doing their job. Especially when they're late and don't ever get out of their seat.
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I buy the first officer beer if we’re having any together. If he/she says “thank you,” I’ll buy the next time. If not, I’m done buying them beer. To me, it’s just a small gesture of appreciation for making my job as captain as easy as possible.
It’s pretty simple. Having beers is pretty rare to begin with these days with the optimizer. If we do have some, it’s never more than 2 per person anyway. The tabs never more than $80 out the door. I usually get an appetizer too. |
Originally Posted by Viper25
(Post 4025501)
100%. The notion that somebody insisting on doing something generous means they have control issues is crazy. I don’t doubt that a few could be that way, but they are certainly outliers and most people are just trying to be nice.
To place “control freak” as one of the more plausible/likely explanations is to really, really, overthink this. |
Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
(Post 4025656)
I buy the first officer beer if we’re having any together. If he/she says “thank you,” I’ll buy the next time. If not, I’m done buying them beer. To me, it’s just a small gesture of appreciation for making my job as captain as easy as possible.
It’s pretty simple. Having beers is pretty rare to begin with these days with the optimizer. If we do have some, it’s never more than 2 per person anyway. The tabs never more than $80 out the door. I usually get an appetizer too. |
Even on the wb fleet, if capt invites, they always pay first round at a minimum. Most of the time, one of the capt would pay for bus driver tips for the whole crew as well.
Whoever on a gs always offer to pay van tips for the whole crew |
Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
(Post 4025656)
I buy the first officer beer if we’re having any together. If he/she says “thank you,” I’ll buy the next time. If not, I’m done buying them beer. To me, it’s just a small gesture of appreciation for making my job as captain as easy as possible.
It’s pretty simple. Having beers is pretty rare to begin with these days with the optimizer. If we do have some, it’s never more than 2 per person anyway. The tabs never more than $80 out the door. I usually get an appetizer too. |
Originally Posted by FangsF15
(Post 4025553)
I know this is sarcasm, but I can vouch for the fact they are not the same person.
back on topic- Capt beer is the best beer. Always appreciate when he offers. Also have never once thought that coffee was somehow a domination play. That’s just weird. |
Originally Posted by tripled
(Post 4025724)
cb at least seems like you could hang out and talk surfing or sports or whatever and still get along. Oofff was all antagonism all the time with some axe to grind as if he was going to make a bunch of strangers see how foolish they are for disagreeing with his political worldview. Glad to hear he got a break - I was noticing that the pages seemed a little more civil lately and now know why
back on topic- Capt beer is the best beer. Always appreciate when he offers. Also have never once thought that coffee was somehow a domination play. That’s just weird. |
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