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Old 05-18-2026 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Delta757
Damn I guess I shouldn't have paid my mortgage early, I lost out on $750m.
exactly. Every pilot knows how to leverage their investments to make eye watering 2-10X market returns, consistently, which is why they volunteer so much free time they could be compounding their millions to fly people around at a loss.
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Old 05-18-2026 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
exactly. Every pilot knows how to leverage their investments to make eye watering 2-10X market returns, consistently, which is why they volunteer so much free time they could be compounding their millions to fly people around at a loss.
Another possibility is we understand the value of compounding, so we let our investments grow while W-2 income meets daily living expenses. After a decade or two, the investments return more than flying and work becomes optional. A work optional WBA or WBB lifestyle isn't a bad place to be. Health benefits, travel benefits and 5 weeks of vacation just for fogging a mirror is a great start to the year. Add on 6-9 days of work for the month and it's easy to see why someone with an 8 figure net worth still comes to work. PIlots like that aren't as rare as you think. I've met plenty over the years.


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Old 05-18-2026 | 12:06 PM
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exactly. Every pilot knows how to leverage their investments to make eye watering 2-10X market returns, consistently, which is why they volunteer so much free time they could be compounding their millions to fly people around at a loss.
Yeah, let me tell you how much I made when I bought AMD at $14 in 2018 and sold it for $110 in 2022......

I am currently crying and picking up another open time trip instead.
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Old 05-18-2026 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Trip7
Berkshire Hathaway is a conglomerate of multiple businesses. Taking the money and investing it in 8-10 cash-flowing businesses with little to no debt and paying a reasonable multiple of that cash flow is much better than paying off a mortgage. All it requires is 4th-grade-level math so one can read an income statement, balance sheet, and cash flow statement. If one is not able or willing to do that, the Dave Ramsey approach, which is better tailored to the financially illiterate, is fair game.
Yeah fourth grade education, which is why 95%* of active investors beat the market. Oh wait, it's 95% that don't beat the market.

If it's so easy I'm not sure why you're a pilot and not the wolf of wallstreet right now.

I'm not even arguing that investing beats paying down the mortgage, I'm just making fun of the absurd $750mil example that was thrown out there.

*I don't remember the actual number and am too lazy to look it up, but it's around there.
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Old 05-18-2026 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Trip7
The Laguna Beach Loan Breakdown

​When Buffett bought the beach house, he was already worth millions, but he flat-out refused to tie up his liquid capital in real estate. Instead, he took out a standard 30-year fixed mortgage through Great Western Savings and Loan.
  • Purchase Price: $150,000
  • Down Payment: $30,000 (20%)
  • Loan Amount: $120,000
  • Interest Rate: Approximately 7.31% (which was the baseline 30-year fixed rate when Freddie Mac began tracking data in 1971)

​The 7.31% Opportunity Cost Arbitrage

​Paying a 7.31% interest rate might sound painful when you have the cash sitting right there to avoid it, but Buffett knew his hurdle rate in the market was vastly higher.

​He took the $120,000 cash he would have used to buy the house outright and deployed it directly into his own compounding engine, purchasing roughly 3,000 shares of Berkshire Hathaway stock instead.

​By the time he eventually listed the Laguna Beach house for sale, the contrast between the two assets was staggering:
  • ​The physical house appreciated from $150,000 to a eventual market value of around $11 million.
  • ​The 3,000 shares of Berkshire Hathaway he bought with the retained cash had compounded into more than $750 million.
​He willingly paid a 7.31% cost of debt because he knew he could compound the retained equity at an IRR that completely eclipsed it.
Originally Posted by Delta757
Yeah fourth grade education, which is why 95%* of active investors beat the market. Oh wait, it's 95% that don't beat the market.

If it's so easy I'm not sure why you're a pilot and not the wolf of wallstreet right now.

I'm not even arguing that investing beats paying down the mortgage, I'm just making fun of the absurd $750mil example that was thrown out there.

*I don't remember the actual number and am too lazy to look it up, but it's around there.
I inherited some money end of 1989. I took my inheritance and bought two shares of Berk A. I think I paid like 8k/share. Now it's up to around 722k/share. Total luck. But I had a hunch and decided to roll with it. Stock market is gambling. Seems I got very lucky on that one. I also took a blood bath in the tech bust and again in 2008-10 during the financial crisis. Again, the market is a gamble just depends on your level of sacrifice you are willing to tolerate as the market swings around. We've been on a very good run lately whether that is inflated or not, I don't care, I'm not losing money so that's good for me.
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Old 05-18-2026 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo
I inherited some money end of 1989. I took my inheritance and bought two shares of Berk A. I think I paid like 8k/share. Now it's up to around 722k/share. Total luck. But I had a hunch and decided to roll with it. Stock market is gambling. Seems I got very lucky on that one. I also took a blood bath in the tech bust and again in 2008-10 during the financial crisis. Again, the market is a gamble just depends on your level of sacrifice you are willing to tolerate as the market swings around. We've been on a very good run lately whether that is inflated or not, I don't care, I'm not losing money so that's good for me.
I'd say getting on particular companies or sectors can be. But historically, the entire US market does average healthy returns. Nothing is ever 100% but if very much push back that "investing in the stock market is gambling." Buy the market and chill.
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Old 05-18-2026 | 01:46 PM
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Any Bogleheads in here?
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Old 05-18-2026 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Delta757
I'd say getting on particular companies or sectors can be. But historically, the entire US market does average healthy returns. Nothing is ever 100% but if very much push back that "investing in the stock market is gambling." Buy the market and chill.
I will admit that paying extra on a mortgage is less of an endorphin hit than hitting on a 10X.
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Old 05-18-2026 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by spaghettilegs
Any Bogleheads in here?
I'm 100% VTWAX and relax. (VT if you like ETFs).
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Old 05-18-2026 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Delta757
Yeah fourth grade education, which is why 95%* of active investors beat the market. Oh wait, it's 95% that don't beat the market.

If it's so easy I'm not sure why you're a pilot and not the wolf of wallstreet right now.

I'm not even arguing that investing beats paying down the mortgage, I'm just making fun of the absurd $750mil example that was thrown out there.

*I don't remember the actual number and am too lazy to look it up, but it's around there.
Because most investors treat stocks like a casino not part ownership of a business. Professional money managers with large sums in the $100s of millions do struggle to beat the market because of scale related issues but for small individual investors it’s not difficult to beat the market if you use 4th grade level math and can read a 10K/10Q

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