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Old 02-11-2019 | 08:21 AM
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Can someone please tell me what airplanes that are on AA property fall under

Group I
Group II
Group III
Group IV
Group V
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Old 02-11-2019 | 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Pack
Can someone please tell me what airplanes that are on AA property fall under

Group I
Group II
Group III
Group VI
Group V
I -E-190
II - A-319, A-320, A-321, B-737, MD-80
III- B757/767
IV- B-777, B787, A330
V- none
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Old 02-11-2019 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Pack
Can someone please tell me what airplanes that are on AA property fall under

Group I
Group II
Group III
Group IV
Group V
The difference between a 30 year career at Delta, United, FedEx, UPS and AAL is probably >$1,000,000. Choose wisely. People will tell you contracts come and go and you will move up the list faster at AA. That’s partially true but the facts are you will earn 20-30+% less at AAL in total compensation.

if APA screws up this bargaining round you are probably looking at another 10 year stretch where the avg DAL CA makes $50k+ per year above his/her counterpart at AA.
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Old 02-11-2019 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by viper548
I -E-190
II - A-319, A-320, A-321, B-737, MD-80
III- B757/767
IV- B-777, B787, A330
V- none
Is it true that Group V is reserved for commuter flights to Mars? rotfl
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Old 02-11-2019 | 12:36 PM
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The difference between a 30 year career at Delta, United, FedEx, UPS and AAL is probably >$1,000,000. Choose wisely. People will tell you contracts come and go and you will move up the list faster at AA. That’s partially true but the facts are you will earn 20-30+% less at AAL in total compensation.

if APA screws up this bargaining round you are probably looking at another 10 year stretch where the avg DAL CA makes $50k+ per year above his/her counterpart at AA.
I left ual for aa and it was a mistake.
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Old 02-11-2019 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by TransWorld
Is it true that Group V is reserved for commuter flights to Mars? rotfl
Those would probably be group 1. Group 5 is B-747 and A-380.
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Old 02-11-2019 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by viper548
Those would probably be group 1. Group 5 is B-747 and A-380.
You are correct. Originally 74s.
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Old 02-11-2019 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by AAL24
The difference between a 30 year career at Delta, United, FedEx, UPS and AAL is probably >$1,000,000. Choose wisely. People will tell you contracts come and go and you will move up the list faster at AA. That’s partially true but the facts are you will earn 20-30+% less at AAL in total compensation.

That may be true but delta and united hired a lot of young pilots over the last 5 years. Unless you’re under 30 would you ever get to those highest paying positions over there?



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Old 02-11-2019 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by AAL24
The difference between a 30 year career at Delta, United, FedEx, UPS and AAL is probably >$1,000,000. Choose wisely. People will tell you contracts come and go and you will move up the list faster at AA. That’s partially true but the facts are you will earn 20-30+% less at AAL in total compensation.

if APA screws up this bargaining round you are probably looking at another 10 year stretch where the avg DAL CA makes $50k+ per year above his/her counterpart at AA.
Absolutely. You’ll also be flying more hours and staying at substandard hotels. The optimizer is butchering our quality of life and the hotels are getting worse every month. Unfortunately managements talk about changing the culture is just rhetoric to keep the workers rowing. A lot of us had hope for this management team......that’s gone. The union is outclassed when dealing with management and too arrogant to see it. If you come to AA keep updating your apps at Delta and FedEx.
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Old 02-11-2019 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by AAfng
I left ual for aa and it was a mistake.
You really don't know what the future holds. There was a time when Delta was last on everyone's list. 727FE forevvvvver vs going right into the FO seat with the best contract and fastest upgrades out there. Which would you choose?

That second carrier was US Air, mid to late 80's.

Turns out, that was a really good time to go to Delta.
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