Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
05-26-2012 | 10:23 AM
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Just my opinion, but personally I would rather negotiate a little harder now and risk our negotiations extending into Obama's (likely) second term rather than sign a substandard contract that risks entering the mid phase of NMB involvement just as a (IMHO likely) Republican president comes into office.
I'm not supporting a no vote based on any prediction of next year's presidential election and the resultant NMB memebership.
DALPA is putting forward the argument that I should vote YES at least partly based on their prediction of future NMB behavior, behavior which is gleaned from an analysis that has intentionally introduced selection bias, just like the pay increase chart from 2008-2015. As they are putting forward this argument, it is appropriate to analyze its merits. Have ALPA's NMB analyses included the fact that the last major airline strike was approved and executed under a second term democrat?
I'm voting no because this agreement surrenders 70 large regional jets, the work rules do not appreciably improve my quality of life, and the compensation falls well below the dollar amount for which I'm willing to be gone half or more of each month.
Agreed. I would however add that it is foolish to vote yes based on fear, as you have permanently signaled your unwillingness to fight for anything more than what is given.
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05-26-2012 | 10:24 AM
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05-26-2012 | 10:26 AM
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Nothing. Brian Bedford is planning on doing just that.
Even better, the TA gives Republic a specific exemption to perform large jet flying by exempting Chautaqua and Shuttle America (wholly owned subsidiaries of Republic) to be exempt from the improved holding company language:
Summary:
Cheers
George
Even better, the TA gives Republic a specific exemption to perform large jet flying by exempting Chautaqua and Shuttle America (wholly owned subsidiaries of Republic) to be exempt from the improved holding company language:
Summary:
- Our PWA has language to prohibit a DCI carrier to fly large jets.
- Republic aquires Frontier and operates A320s, orders the C-Series.
- Many Delta pilot call their reps and say it violates the PWA.
- The DALPA lawyer responds that the PWA language isn't enforceable as written.
- My rep promises to make sure the next contract is better.
- New language in TA prohibits operations like Republic from operating larger jets.
- Exemption added to TA specifically permits Republic (Chautaqua, Shuttle America) to operate large jets contrary to news language.
Cheers
George
05-26-2012 | 10:27 AM
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05-26-2012 | 10:28 AM
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Is there any part of this TA where we as pilots score a flat out WIN without giving part of it away somewhere else?
05-26-2012 | 10:28 AM
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All right, scambo1. Here's your chance as this one can be determined with absolute certainty. Care to make a $100 wager that ATN pilots do NOT come with those 717s? Yes or No? I'll even give you 2-1 odds on this one.
05-26-2012 | 10:28 AM
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- We get the planes and the pilots and they majically appear on our Seniority list
- They are fenced infinitely so that nobody ever can fly the 717's except the AT pilots (zero training cost)
- They fly using AT Rules (it would cost money to train them to use our FOM, etc)
- They keep the ugly blue/green paint and the giant "a". (it would cost money to paint the aircraft)
- the FAA lets us do this without a separate operating certificate
- blah, blah, blah
I can prove to you that the Sun will rise tomorrow, but I have no legal documents that say that it will happen
05-26-2012 | 10:30 AM
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05-26-2012 | 10:30 AM
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Nothing. Brian Bedford is planning on doing just that.
Even better, the TA gives Republic a specific exemption to perform large jet flying by exempting Chautaqua and Shuttle America (wholly owned subsidiaries of Republic) to be exempt from the improved holding company language:
Summary:
Cheers
George
Even better, the TA gives Republic a specific exemption to perform large jet flying by exempting Chautaqua and Shuttle America (wholly owned subsidiaries of Republic) to be exempt from the improved holding company language:
Summary:
- Our PWA has language to prohibit a DCI carrier to fly large jets.
- Republic aquires Frontier and operates A320s, orders the C-Series.
- Many Delta pilot call their reps and say it violates the PWA.
- The DALPA lawyer responds that the PWA language isn't enforceable as written.
- My rep promises to make sure the next contract is better.
- New language in TA prohibits operations like Republic from operating larger jets.
- Exemption added to TA specifically permits Republic (Chautaqua, Shuttle America) to operate large jets contrary to news language.
Cheers
George
Also using smart phones, ipads, laptops and home computers. The union (who very well may have been duped themselves with slick talking Mr. Campbell) can't say things without having it fact checked in almost real time. The phonies that continue to sell a leaky contract as it is being exposed to be should be ashamed of themselves.
05-26-2012 | 10:31 AM
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The concern is not the likeliness of it but that everyone is silent on the issue.
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