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Old 06-29-2012 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by NWARet
KUDOS, and thanks to the 94% that voted for the betterment of the profession.
Enjoy the "ret". You typed it wrong, fixed it for you.

Disengagement is the biggest detriment to the profession. This shows that pilots are engaged in the process.

So only 1 years and 9 months till the contract survey goes out...

What's on everybody's wish lists?
Old 06-29-2012 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by shiznit
So only 1 years and 9 months till the contract survey goes out...

What's on everybody's wish lists?
A professional negotiating committee?
Old 06-29-2012 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Kingbird87
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That is hilarious and tragiclly true!
Old 06-29-2012 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Free Bird
I'll bet almost anything that the next TA will also have a SCOPE sale attached to it.

Folks, this business model is NOT sustainable for the pilot group. We have to stop giving our jobs away at some point!

I bet it doesn't. The regional model isn't fixed, and DAL Inc. likely just reduced its reliance on that segment of the industry by 25% over the next three years.

I say do it again in the next deal and drop the 450 DCI cap to the 350-300 hull range!
Old 06-29-2012 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Free Bird
I'll bet almost anything that the next TA will also have a SCOPE sale attached to it.

Folks, this business model is NOT sustainable for the pilot group. We have to stop giving our jobs away at some point!
The union has to give away the jets, they have no choice, lest they go out of business.
Old 06-29-2012 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by contrails
A professional negotiating committee?
That is on Mgt.'s wishlist for themselves.

Ask the NC that were in the lounges, we got way more in a lot of areas than the company thought they would give.
Old 06-29-2012 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Roadie85
Until we all get MD'd to the B-717. I find it hard to believe that 94% of this pilot group voted on this TA.
If you get MD'd to the 717, you will still be paid more per hour than you would have had this TA been voted down.
Old 06-29-2012 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by shiznit
That is on Mgt.'s wishlist for themselves.

Ask the NC that were in the lounges, we got way more in a lot of areas than the company thought they would give.
Not to sound petulant, but what else would you expect our NC to say?
Old 06-29-2012 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
This contract's duration is up right around the time retirements start picking up and the C-series model Delta wants, the C300, becomes available. This contract does not set a good precedence for that time frame.
The company wanted 88 seats badly, then they tried 82 seats in the current airframes all the way until the very last session.

The line is 76, I finally believe that is one etched in stone and not sand.

I want sunsets and/or shrinkage in DCI again in 2 years and 9 months when openers are swapped again, and will direct my MEC accordingly.

Hopefully you will flow soon and be part of the discussion when the time comes.
Old 06-29-2012 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by dragon
Not to sound petulant, but what else would you expect our NC to say?
They also freely admitted the areas where they were unable to push the company to fully meet our desires.

Wish you would have taken time to go to a roadshow or happen across an NC member during the lounge visit days. I learned A LOT that I had no idea about.

The MEC elected the NC members TWICE, UNANIMOUSLY, both times; it leads me to believe that the four gentlemen were extremely capable and also possess integrity.

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