Originally Posted by slowplay

I haven't had any problems today. You on the road or at home?

Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy

The AWCAS was unstable (receiver's fault) and the boom operator initiated the contact when the receiver was unstable (tanker's fault). It looks like there was either an inner or upper limit disconnect (compressing the boom). However, after the disconnect, notice the AWCAS moves downward (too fast actually). This causes a low pressure between the airplanes. The tanker's autopilot senses that low pressure and assumes a climb (higher pressure down low, lower pressures up high) and starts trimming to counteract those forces. But the trim rate cannot keep up with what the autopilot is sensing and the autopilot abruptly disconnects. This causes an immediate nose down pitch change caused by the now out of trim tanker (remember the autopilot thought it was climbing due to the low pressure and was trimming nose down). The tanker then quickly dives into the receiver until the pilots can react. And as such, the receiver gets a very close and uncomfortable view of the tanker's tail. The KC-135 is very susceptible to this -- the KC-10 is not. Any large receiver moving up or down too fast most likely will cause the KC-135 autopilot to kick off. I have had it happen at night while in the weather. I was flying a KC-10 receiving gas from a KC-135. I could have sworn my co-pilot had yanked the controls and pitched us up into the tanker when in reality, it was the tanker coming down towards us. It was one of the more scarier moments I've experienced in flight.

Originally Posted by PilotFrog

The only time the AP kicked off for me was when a KC-10 underran us. If you don't get under the tail, the AP can keep up. Stop getting under us, you're no chick, even though you take the boom. Cept a KC-10 gives and receives, I guess that speaks for itself.

Originally Posted by PilotFrog

The only time the AP kicked off for me was when a KC-10 underran us. If you don't get under the tail, the AP can keep up. Stop getting under us, you're no chick, even though you take the boom. Cept a KC-10 gives and receives, I guess that speaks for itself.

Originally Posted by forgot to bid

Yes nice coaches win championships. It just requires Superman as a QB, super senior O&D line and a one man wrecking crew at nose tackle. check out the cheerleaders reaction there*.



After that happens, it ain't pretty. Maybe nice guys are too soft?

I mean winning coaches seem to be mean. After all it was Bear Bryant who tortured the junction boys, Colin Cowherd used to play a hissing snake sound in the background as Saban talked and NFL coaches look like they live in dungeons.

Just wait, Bobby Petrinio vs Nick Saban in the Iron Bowl. It'll be really good football. but man, i hope petrino has learned his lesson... about riding motorcycles.

*cheerleader in the short skirt, not the dude. if you looked at the dude, you deserve what you got.

Originally Posted by forgot to bid

you'll win with him. anyone will. but you will feel dirty.

given auburns history with Bobby, a buddy said he'd cancel his season tickets if we hire him. but... we'd win.