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Old 01-24-2013 | 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by formerdal
Yes, you can with approval from flight ops as long as you count the time toward the FAR limits...
right. any my understanding that includes flight instructing, right?
Old 01-24-2013 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
In the days of trip parking this was possible/easy. I would like to know how they are doing that today./? (vacation months aside)

Because...If trip parking went away, the only way to do that is if someone posts a trip drop on the PTP swap board (as a just take it). The pick up limit is the limit for the most part now. Right?

In my category, a just take it trip drop is just slightly less rare than a greenslip.
As you said, it's done via white slips during vacation months, and via pickups from the swap board during non-vacation months.
Old 01-24-2013 | 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by CVG767A
As you said, it's done via white slips during vacation months, and via pickups from the swap board during non-vacation months.
We can't WS flying on our vacation days, right? (reserve dawg )
Old 01-24-2013 | 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
right. any my understanding that includes flight instructing, right?
Any flying for compensation is considered "commercial" and must be included...
Old 01-24-2013 | 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
We can't WS flying on our vacation days, right? (reserve dawg )
not on you vacation days, but premonth vacation counts as pay/credit...in the month it is pay no credit. So, what you do is put a trip on other off days.
Old 01-24-2013 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by CVG767A
As you said, it's done via white slips during vacation months, and via pickups from the swap board during non-vacation months.
okay, vacation months I get, but I'm pretty hard pressed to find any "just take its" on the ptp swap board...IOW, guys are flying over 100 hrs in their vacation months and flying to the PUL on their non vacation months.

I dont mind a little exaggeration, but "half the guys I fly with..." don't have the option to fly over 100 hrs month in, month out.

So, my 3 pronged strategy has been: 1.Credit to the max in vacation months using whiteslips; and 2. (especially in high alv months) bid reserve and move x-days to minimize exposure in other months, and 3.bid a line in other months and just fly it as delivered.

IMO, in a way ALPA protected us from ourselves by getting the ALV (and subsequent reserve guarantee) raised. It takes the sting out of reserve and IMO, when guys bid like I do, we are not doing the harm to manning like some here surmise...And still crediting 90+ hrs/month on average across the year.

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Old 01-24-2013 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
George,

You are probably correct. The old time traditional Frequent Flier was the corporate guy who did not know what his Company paid for his ticket. Mostly those are tickets for fully refundable last minute travel (kind of like a positive space non rev, and that's exactly how it "feels" )

Because most of my clients' assignments are near my office, I never rack up a lot of miles. Yet, on average my tickets cost > $1,000 plus service fees. For purchasers like me, this change is terrific. Since I'm usually paying 400% of a First Class ticket booked 14 days out it is nice for the program to evolve its standards for recognition.

Many of our FF are leisure travelers who are very savy at scoring low priced fares. God bless those folks, we love their business. But, it is a little unfair for the high margin guys to get thrown in back when you consider what they pay for "flexibility."

We just have to be careful not to offend our lower yielding passengers by letting them know in some way that we appreciate them too. US Air produced surprisingly good numbers this year. If they merge with American they are going to be even tougher competition, particularly for the flexible travelers.
My brother fits squarely into the demographic targeted by these changes. Doesn't fly a whole lot, but when he does, his company shells out big money. He went to China twice last year at well over $8000 per trip. When we talked about these changes yesterday, he was very happy to hear about it.
Old 01-24-2013 | 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
not on you vacation days, but premonth vacation counts as pay/credit...in the month it is pay no credit. So, what you do is put a trip on other off days.
Understood. Thanks.
Old 01-24-2013 | 07:59 AM
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So with the change to FF will there be more, less, or the same opportunity for a non rev to get up front, that is the big question!
Old 01-24-2013 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotFrog
So with the change to FF will there be more, less, or the same opportunity for a non rev to get up front, that is the big question!
I guessing that you are referring to international because domestically, nah.
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