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Old 01-29-2014 | 04:57 PM
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Old 01-29-2014 | 04:58 PM
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The climate change issue is important to pilots because the proposed remedies would greatly affect our industry.

The problem with the debate is the potential for confirmation bias. Bias based in ideology.

Here's an article that explains it better than I can.

Climate Change and Confirmation Bias - Reason.com

The gist is that whether you're inclined to believe climate change is a problem or not is largely based on whether you lean left or right socially. Whether you believe more in government or individualism.

As I implied before, simply stating that most scientists believe climate change is a problem, is not necessarily conclusive. They are primarily Democrats and their views on climate change could be influenced by confirmation bias.
Old 01-29-2014 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Michael Jackson
The people collecting data and creating models have nothing to do with Michael More, Al Gore, Tax credits or politics. They are scientists period. And there is no question in their community regarding global warming. Regardless of where you lie politically it seems silly to deny that this is happening.

NOAA - National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration - NOAA: Past Decade Warmest on Record According to Scientists in 48 Countries
Global Climate Change Indicators | National Climatic Data Center (NCDC)

I encourage you to do your own research.
OK that post just proved you don't really get it.

One can debate both sides of the climate change issue using data to support each side. What one cannot debate is that it is a political issue. You have to be a complete idiot to not see that climate change and the entire "green" movement is more about politics than polar bears. If it wasn't, then those groups would be in third world countries actually making a difference in carbon emissions rather than supporting cap and trade schemes in the U.S. and E.U.
Old 01-29-2014 | 05:11 PM
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This is getting too close to politics. I would ask the mods to pinch this off before it ruins the whole thread.

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Old 01-29-2014 | 05:16 PM
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The issue is important, but you're right, it is political.
Old 01-29-2014 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
This is getting too close to politics. I would ask the mods to pinch this off before it ruins the whole thread.

Nu
I disagree. This discussion directly affects our industry and career. A discussion of the relative merits of carbon footprints, fuel burn and whether or not there is any legitimacy to man's affect or lack thereof on "global warming" is entirely appropriate. We can't talk about SWA f'ing up a visual approach or icy roads in ATL forever.
Old 01-29-2014 | 05:17 PM
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Global Warming is the best we've got on the L&G thread right now? We can do better than that.

I do love watching how language morphs over time, depending upon your persuasion, i.e.,

Liberal -> Progressive
Global Warming -> Climate Change
Illegal Alien -> Undocumented Immigrant
Terrorism -> Man-Caused Disaster
War On Terror -> Overseas Contingency Operations
Capitalism -> Economic Inequality

Reminds me of Orwell's 1984 and "Newspeak".
Old 01-29-2014 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
This is getting too close to politics. I would ask the mods to pinch this off before it ruins the whole thread.

Nu

With everything that has been discussed here in this thread over the years, this topic is what you think will ruin it??

And as others have mentioned, this topic can very much have an influence (to the worse) on our career.
Old 01-29-2014 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
This is getting too close to politics. I would ask the mods to pinch this off before it ruins the whole thread.

Nu
Yeah, I'm trying to figure out where the line is on this one. It's important with its ramifications to our industry, but it's science mixed with deep politics... I'll call uncle if once it goes too far.

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Old 01-29-2014 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Elvis90
Global Warming is the best we've got on the L&G thread right now? We can do better than that.

I do love watching how language morphs over time, depending upon your persuasion, i.e.,

Liberal -> Progressive
Global Warming -> Climate Change
Illegal Alien -> Undocumented Immigrant
Terrorism -> Man-Caused Disaster
War On Terror -> Overseas Contingency Operations
Capitalism -> Economic Inequality

Reminds me of Orwell's 1984 and "Newspeak".
You hit that one out of the park, Elvis!
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