Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
Boeing says yes, a winglet is nothing more than the extension of the wingspan, thus creating efficiency through increased aspect ratio. Boeing believes the structure needed to beef up the outer wing for a 70 degree bend in the load path is inefficient.
Everyone other than Boeing says the optimization of the airfoil makes up for the weight.
IMHO there is a trade off and Boeing is probably right. Notice the latest and greatest wing designs (787, A350) "winglets" are more just a raked extension. Of course the P-8 has hardpoints, so the comparison to the civillian version's structure could be an apples and oranges comparison. I don't know what Boeing does to specialize the P-8 wing ... .
Delta says that the winglets cost efficiency over flights <400 nm (more weight and drag) and that you have to really go somewhere, a couple hours or more, for the high altitude cruise efficiency to earn back the weight and drag penalty.
Everyone other than Boeing says the optimization of the airfoil makes up for the weight.
IMHO there is a trade off and Boeing is probably right. Notice the latest and greatest wing designs (787, A350) "winglets" are more just a raked extension. Of course the P-8 has hardpoints, so the comparison to the civillian version's structure could be an apples and oranges comparison. I don't know what Boeing does to specialize the P-8 wing ... .
Delta says that the winglets cost efficiency over flights <400 nm (more weight and drag) and that you have to really go somewhere, a couple hours or more, for the high altitude cruise efficiency to earn back the weight and drag penalty.
Holiday Inn. The only place to eat requires you walk under the interstate, which is where a large settlement of hobos resides. The smell is horrendous. The neighborhood is bad. The rooms smell like cigarette smoke. No heat. Very noisy with the interstate right outside. If I have another layover there, I'm heading over to the crown plaza and expensing it to the company.
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Tech question. My 5 year old has an Itouch and his cousins downloaded facetime and he's addicted. I don't have an iphone(android and debating getting an galaxy S4) Can facetime work on androids or is that only for apple products? Most everyone I know has apple and I've been holding out, but might have to make the switch. Another thing pushing me to apple is the schools around here use ipads. Thanks
Then you get a call from the CPO... it lasts 10 seconds.
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Possible tool of the month/year award in order??
I don't know, that Professor guy would sure be hard to beat for TOTY.
I still want to add to the TOTD is any corporate pilot making a fast track to the nearest phone or camera to be interviewed about MH 370 as an "aviation expert". Those guys are so over the top obnoxious it's not even funny.
News teams need to learn the value of talking to at least a LCA who is versed in international and domestic operations. Although Sully is doing well when he is interviewed.
I still want to add to the TOTD is any corporate pilot making a fast track to the nearest phone or camera to be interviewed about MH 370 as an "aviation expert". Those guys are so over the top obnoxious it's not even funny.
News teams need to learn the value of talking to at least a LCA who is versed in international and domestic operations. Although Sully is doing well when he is interviewed.
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What part of the FOM does he reference? Maybe I'm missing it, but the only place in the FOM I see it saying no sleeping on the jumpseat is in the "cabin jumpseat" section. Nothing I can find about that on the cockpit jumpseat.
I bet if the CPO had a TOTD award it'd be very interesting.
ALPA has one.
Day 32: Purple Drank
Day 33: Carl Spackler, Purple Drank
Day 34: FTB, Purple Drank
Day 35: Purple Drank
Day 36: Purple Drank
Day 37: Carl Spackler, Purple Drank
Day 38: Purple Drunk, FTB
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Day 40: Purple Drank, Purple Drank
ALPA has one.
Day 32: Purple Drank
Day 33: Carl Spackler, Purple Drank
Day 34: FTB, Purple Drank
Day 35: Purple Drank
Day 36: Purple Drank
Day 37: Carl Spackler, Purple Drank
Day 38: Purple Drunk, FTB
Day 39: Carl Spackler, Purple Drank
Day 40: Purple Drank, Purple Drank
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Carl has been very,very quiet lately.
I bet if the CPO had a TOTD award it'd be very interesting.
ALPA has one.
Day 32: Purple Drank
Day 33: Carl Spackler, Purple Drank
Day 34: FTB, Purple Drank
Day 35: Purple Drank
Day 36: Purple Drank
Day 37: Carl Spackler, Purple Drank
Day 38: Purple Drunk, FTB
Day 39: Carl Spackler, Purple Drank
Day 40: Purple Drank, Purple Drank
ALPA has one.
Day 32: Purple Drank
Day 33: Carl Spackler, Purple Drank
Day 34: FTB, Purple Drank
Day 35: Purple Drank
Day 36: Purple Drank
Day 37: Carl Spackler, Purple Drank
Day 38: Purple Drunk, FTB
Day 39: Carl Spackler, Purple Drank
Day 40: Purple Drank, Purple Drank
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