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12-23-2014, 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by gzsg
The reps are the last to know. The admin insiders make all the deals.
Sailing how about that ridiculous CDO rumor on the FAR 117 LOA?
That was just plain silly. I mean if DALPA were to consider such a huge reduction in safety we all know they would have polled us.
I promise you we will cave on minimum schedule. It was not on the survey and the pilots don't have a clue.
I'm 90% sure we will see some reduction to sick time.
Pay banding is a done deal.
The goal for the insiders is to keep the line pilots in the dark and do a jam down sell job just like C2012.
Playing with fire this time.
Fool me once.........
Jerry
Sailing how about that ridiculous CDO rumor on the FAR 117 LOA?
That was just plain silly. I mean if DALPA were to consider such a huge reduction in safety we all know they would have polled us.
I promise you we will cave on minimum schedule. It was not on the survey and the pilots don't have a clue.
I'm 90% sure we will see some reduction to sick time.
Pay banding is a done deal.
The goal for the insiders is to keep the line pilots in the dark and do a jam down sell job just like C2012.
Playing with fire this time.
Fool me once.........
Jerry
12-23-2014, 05:54 AM
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Additional international flying is posted on Delta net for the summer. Probably explains some of the 7ERB staffing we are seeing.
12-23-2014, 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by flh57
Alot of pilots over 60 year hang on because of the min skd option. How does this help the wave of retirements about to occur? This is a major QOL issue.
12-23-2014, 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by gzsg
The reps are the last to know. The admin insiders make all the deals.
Sailing how about that ridiculous CDO rumor on the FAR 117 LOA?
That was just plain silly. I mean if DALPA were to consider such a huge reduction in safety we all know they would have polled us.
I promise you we will cave on minimum schedule. It was not on the survey and the pilots don't have a clue.
I'm 90% sure we will see some reduction to sick time.
Pay banding is a done deal.
The goal for the insiders is to keep the line pilots in the dark and do a jam down sell job just like C2012.
Playing with fire this time.
Fool me once.........
Jerry
Sailing how about that ridiculous CDO rumor on the FAR 117 LOA?
That was just plain silly. I mean if DALPA were to consider such a huge reduction in safety we all know they would have polled us.
I promise you we will cave on minimum schedule. It was not on the survey and the pilots don't have a clue.
I'm 90% sure we will see some reduction to sick time.
Pay banding is a done deal.
The goal for the insiders is to keep the line pilots in the dark and do a jam down sell job just like C2012.
Playing with fire this time.
Fool me once.........
Jerry
I was surprised the company didn't ask for a minimum schedule type restriction on the last contract. Now that we are so short in every catagory across the board, no one can drop trips anyway, unless there is someone wanting to pick up a trip, but I know my winter schedule last year from PBS was 67-72 hours, this year it's been 78-82 hours.
I don't see the company asking for this now because staffing numbers have disallowed this kind of option by virtue of "capped reserve days".
12-23-2014, 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Big E 757
I was surprised the company didn't ask for a minimum schedule type restriction on the last contract. Now that we are so short in every catagory across the board, no one can drop trips anyway, unless there is someone wanting to pick up a trip, but I know my winter schedule last year from PBS was 67-72 hours, this year it's been 78-82 hours.
I don't see the company asking for this now because staffing numbers have disallowed this kind of option by virtue of "capped reserve days".
I don't see the company asking for this now because staffing numbers have disallowed this kind of option by virtue of "capped reserve days".
12-23-2014, 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
The option is there regardless of staffing. If you are a over 60 pilot your probably senior in your category. Simply bid good trips and put them up for pickup as a Q trip and on the swap board. They are gone in hours.
12-23-2014, 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
The option is there regardless of staffing. If you are a over 60 pilot your probably senior in your category. Simply bid good trips and put them up for pickup as a Q trip and on the swap board. They are gone in hours.
And I do know a few guys who bid nothing but these and drop what they don't feel like flying and end up flying 50-60 hours a month. To be fair they are the exception but it is certainly not unheard of.
12-23-2014, 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by NERD
8 PDs/year from our sick bank, and no change to our current sick policy. That leaves them two 4 day trips per year that the attendance police won't have to scrutinize. Problem solved as sick leave use is cut in half!
12-23-2014, 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
I have talked with quite a few people involved as reps or volunteers. Not a single one is aware of any posturing or trial balloons being put out by the company concerning the contract. No back channel talks and in fact no talks at all. 100% of rumor mongering seems to come from this forum.
So I should walk back into my chief pilots office and tell him AND the flight ops manager they are both "rumor mongering" and thus full of schitt? Particularly on their comments regarding sick leave.
You know, the worst abuse of "rumor mongering" is done at the LCA level.
Management feeds them frequently at meetings with one sided information and engineered trial balloons that they eagerly consume and expressively regurgitate as soon as they can in crew rooms and cockpits.
Sound familiar sailing?
Oh, and I remember everyone stridently protesting from inside the Dalpa camp that 4833 was not true before we found out that POS C12K was bedrocked in it and it was true......
Same with CDOs in the FAR 117 LOA.
Take away = DALPA has a credibility problem. They need to fix it.
Start with a detailed and honest accounting of what just happened on the negotiating committee.
12-23-2014, 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by TheManager
Oh, ok.
So I should walk back into my chief pilots office and tell him AND the flight ops manager they are both "rumor mongering" and thus full of schitt? Particularly on their comments regarding sick leave.
You know, the worst abuse of "rumor mongering" is done at the LCA level.
Management feeds them frequently at meetings with one sided information and engineered trial balloons that they eagerly consume and expressively regurgitate as soon as they can in crew rooms and cockpits.
Sound familiar sailing?
So I should walk back into my chief pilots office and tell him AND the flight ops manager they are both "rumor mongering" and thus full of schitt? Particularly on their comments regarding sick leave.
You know, the worst abuse of "rumor mongering" is done at the LCA level.
Management feeds them frequently at meetings with one sided information and engineered trial balloons that they eagerly consume and expressively regurgitate as soon as they can in crew rooms and cockpits.
Sound familiar sailing?
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