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Maybe you contract experts can weigh in on this one: I am currently being displaced to the -90 in SLC. I am interested in moving to SLC, assuming I can still hold it after the next AE. If I bid, and am awarded SLC as an AE (on the A320, for example) will they still pay for my move if I haven't moved yet?
In other words, how long do I have, after being displaced, to have my move paid for? And will an ensuing succesful AE bid have any effect on that?
I could probably try to read the contract for myself but these -88 flows are taking all my extra time and brain power. And you guys are smarter than I am anyway.
In other words, how long do I have, after being displaced, to have my move paid for? And will an ensuing succesful AE bid have any effect on that?
I could probably try to read the contract for myself but these -88 flows are taking all my extra time and brain power. And you guys are smarter than I am anyway.
Last edited by Bluto; 11-16-2009 at 01:02 PM. Reason: clarification
"Eligible pilot" for the purposes of Section 6, means a pilot who intends to complete or
completes an eligible move and:
a. converts into a position at another base via an MD or VD, or
b. converts into a position at a new or re-established base within 12 months of the first
pilot conversion at such base, or
c. transfers from a closed base within the 12 months preceding the base closing, or
d. is recalled from furlough to a base other than his furlough base, or
e. otherwise transfers to a base at Company request,
f. provided:
1) he actually moves his household goods and personal effects to a new permanent
residence that is within a 125 straight-line statute mile radius of the airfield
reference point at his new base, and
2) his current permanent residence is not within such radius, and
3) he actually establishes his home at his new permanent residence, and
4) his new permanent residence is at least 50 straight-line statute miles closer to the
airfield reference point at his new base than is the permanent residence address
from which he is relocating, and
6-1
Section 6 - Relocation
5) he agrees to repay the Company for such relocation benefits if, within 24 months
of the conversion that entitled him to receive such relocation benefit, he:
a) converts into a position at another base as the result of an advance
entitlement, or
b) relocates to another permanent residence outside such radius, without
changing bases.
4. “Furlough base” means the base to which a pilot was assigned on his date of furlough.
5. “Permanent residence” means the home where a pilot physically resides on a permanent
basis and at which he intends to remain. Evidence of a pilot’s permanent residence
includes, but is not limited to, his DBMS residence address and residence address for
Company benefits enrollment purposes.
B. Relocation Benefits
1. Subject to the limitations in Section 6 B. 2., an eligible pilot will be provided the
following relocation benefits:
a. Household Goods and Personal Effects
The cost of packing, crating, and transporting up to 24,000 pounds of the pilot's
household goods and personal effects, when arranged by the Company with a
recognized public moving and storage company, from his former permanent
residence to his new permanent residence (or storage facility in the vicinity of his new
permanent residence).
Note: Company paid expenses under Section 6 B. 1. a., will not exceed the expense of
moving the straight line statute mile distance between the airfield reference points at the
former base and the new base.
completes an eligible move and:
a. converts into a position at another base via an MD or VD, or
b. converts into a position at a new or re-established base within 12 months of the first
pilot conversion at such base, or
c. transfers from a closed base within the 12 months preceding the base closing, or
d. is recalled from furlough to a base other than his furlough base, or
e. otherwise transfers to a base at Company request,
f. provided:
1) he actually moves his household goods and personal effects to a new permanent
residence that is within a 125 straight-line statute mile radius of the airfield
reference point at his new base, and
2) his current permanent residence is not within such radius, and
3) he actually establishes his home at his new permanent residence, and
4) his new permanent residence is at least 50 straight-line statute miles closer to the
airfield reference point at his new base than is the permanent residence address
from which he is relocating, and
6-1
Section 6 - Relocation
5) he agrees to repay the Company for such relocation benefits if, within 24 months
of the conversion that entitled him to receive such relocation benefit, he:
a) converts into a position at another base as the result of an advance
entitlement, or
b) relocates to another permanent residence outside such radius, without
changing bases.
4. “Furlough base” means the base to which a pilot was assigned on his date of furlough.
5. “Permanent residence” means the home where a pilot physically resides on a permanent
basis and at which he intends to remain. Evidence of a pilot’s permanent residence
includes, but is not limited to, his DBMS residence address and residence address for
Company benefits enrollment purposes.
B. Relocation Benefits
1. Subject to the limitations in Section 6 B. 2., an eligible pilot will be provided the
following relocation benefits:
a. Household Goods and Personal Effects
The cost of packing, crating, and transporting up to 24,000 pounds of the pilot's
household goods and personal effects, when arranged by the Company with a
recognized public moving and storage company, from his former permanent
residence to his new permanent residence (or storage facility in the vicinity of his new
permanent residence).
Note: Company paid expenses under Section 6 B. 1. a., will not exceed the expense of
moving the straight line statute mile distance between the airfield reference points at the
former base and the new base.
C. Forfeiture
1. A pilot will forfeit his existing eligibility for relocation benefits if he:
a. does not relocate his permanent residence within 24 months (excluding time from
date of furlough to the earlier of his date of recall or date of recall bypass) of the
conversion pursuant to the award or recall that entitled him to such relocation
benefits, or
b. prior to relocating he:
1) is awarded a position at his former base,
2) becomes eligible for relocation benefits again under Section 6 A. 2., or
3) retires, dies or is terminated.
2. A pilot will repay the Company for relocation benefits paid if:
a. his relocation was the result of a conversion into a position at a new or reestablished
base and he:
1. A pilot will forfeit his existing eligibility for relocation benefits if he:
a. does not relocate his permanent residence within 24 months (excluding time from
date of furlough to the earlier of his date of recall or date of recall bypass) of the
conversion pursuant to the award or recall that entitled him to such relocation
benefits, or
b. prior to relocating he:
1) is awarded a position at his former base,
2) becomes eligible for relocation benefits again under Section 6 A. 2., or
3) retires, dies or is terminated.
2. A pilot will repay the Company for relocation benefits paid if:
a. his relocation was the result of a conversion into a position at a new or reestablished
base and he:
1) converts into a position at another base as the result of a VD within 24 months of
his conversion to a position at such new or reestablished base, or
2) does not actually complete an eligible move within the 24 month period specified
in Section 6 C. 1. a.,
b. he elects to move prior to his projected date of conversion and such conversion does
not occur, or
c. he does not actually complete an eligible move within the 24 month period specified
in Section 6 C. 1. a.
his conversion to a position at such new or reestablished base, or
2) does not actually complete an eligible move within the 24 month period specified
in Section 6 C. 1. a.,
b. he elects to move prior to his projected date of conversion and such conversion does
not occur, or
c. he does not actually complete an eligible move within the 24 month period specified
in Section 6 C. 1. a.
In a nut shell read PWA Section 6.
My interpretation is that you will get your paid move for 24 months from the MD.
If you AE the 320 it is in the same base. I would call Contract Admin and get the OFFICIAL union take on this. (It is too important to you for anyone to be wrong)
My interpretation is that you will get your paid move for 24 months from the MD.
If you AE the 320 it is in the same base. I would call Contract Admin and get the OFFICIAL union take on this. (It is too important to you for anyone to be wrong)
Maybe you contract experts can weigh in on this one: I am currently being displaced to the -90 in SLC. I am interested in moving to SLC, assuming I can still hold it after the next AE. If I bid, and am awarded SLC as an AE (on the A320, for example) will they still pay for my move if I haven't moved yet?
In other words, how long do I have, after being displaced, to have my move paid for? And will an ensuing succesful AE bid have any effect on that?
I could probably try to read the contract for myself but these -88 flows are taking all my extra time and brain power. And you guys are smarter than I am anyway.
In other words, how long do I have, after being displaced, to have my move paid for? And will an ensuing succesful AE bid have any effect on that?
I could probably try to read the contract for myself but these -88 flows are taking all my extra time and brain power. And you guys are smarter than I am anyway.
You're dating yourself
Most of my FOs weren't even born when the last one went. So now tell me again who this Lance Armstrong guy was that landed on the moon? Or was it Louis? Ahhhh I ferget.
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