Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
01-10-2010, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Not at all if that is what they want to do. That is still very much a possibility. Many of the press reports that have been floated appear to be trial balloons to see how DAL, AMR, and the markets will react. I know that there is a lot of "chatter" at it pertains to wide body flying about 13 time zones away.....
I think JAL may be past the how the markets will react phase...They are going to reorganize. JAL hasn't said they were going to be domestic only. However, they have said they will have a significantly reduced international operation.
Of course this could go either way, but my tea leaves are on skyteam. This is why. Saving face. To take skyteam money and quit AMR, is a big splat in the face on American. In reorganization, when the JAL Int'l side is radically cut, it will be much easier and more comfortable to change their marketting arrangement to skyteam. AMR has 5 flights a day to asia and therefore no feed/siphon ability for JAL. DAL has waaaay more. It is a way to change sides because you are no longer worthwhile or valuable to the current partner. Its the Japanese version of saying "yes dear, you are right I am wrong...it's all my fault"
The DAL money will still be spent, just not right now or in the way it appeared to be going. I am of course one sided, but cannot see how JAL and AMR would be valid dance partners going forward. I also see this as a way for DAL to access Haneda thru a JAL Int'l codeshare, but that is pure hip shooting.
The fat lady has not taken the stage yet.
01-10-2010, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
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I think JAL may be past the how the markets will react phase...They are going to reorganize. JAL hasn't said they were going to be domestic only. However, they have said they will have a significantly reduced international operation.
Of course this could go either way, but my tea leaves are on skyteam. This is why. Saving face. To take skyteam money and quit AMR, is a big splat in the face on American. In reorganization, when the JAL Int'l side is radically cut, it will be much easier and more comfortable to change their marketting arrangement to skyteam. AMR has 5 flights a day to asia and therefore no feed/siphon ability for JAL. DAL has waaaay more. It is a way to change sides because you are no longer worthwhile or valuable to the current partner. Its the Japanese version of saying "yes dear, you are right I am wrong...it's all my fault"
The DAL money will still be spent, just not right now or in the way it appeared to be going. I am of course one sided, but cannot see how JAL and AMR would be valid dance partners going forward. I also see this as a way for DAL to access Haneda thru a JAL Int'l codeshare, but that is pure hip shooting.
The fat lady has not taken the stage yet.
I think JAL may be past the how the markets will react phase...They are going to reorganize. JAL hasn't said they were going to be domestic only. However, they have said they will have a significantly reduced international operation.
Of course this could go either way, but my tea leaves are on skyteam. This is why. Saving face. To take skyteam money and quit AMR, is a big splat in the face on American. In reorganization, when the JAL Int'l side is radically cut, it will be much easier and more comfortable to change their marketting arrangement to skyteam. AMR has 5 flights a day to asia and therefore no feed/siphon ability for JAL. DAL has waaaay more. It is a way to change sides because you are no longer worthwhile or valuable to the current partner. Its the Japanese version of saying "yes dear, you are right I am wrong...it's all my fault"
The DAL money will still be spent, just not right now or in the way it appeared to be going. I am of course one sided, but cannot see how JAL and AMR would be valid dance partners going forward. I also see this as a way for DAL to access Haneda thru a JAL Int'l codeshare, but that is pure hip shooting.
The fat lady has not taken the stage yet.
The leaks are designed to prep the markets. Having our leaders make a last minute trip says a lot. I still think they are there.
01-10-2010, 10:42 AM
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ACL quick question for ya'
Is the rumor of getting a new 747-400 sim at natco true or was it a typo. I think everyone on this board was aware of the -330, but the -400 was news to me this past week.
Scambo
Is the rumor of getting a new 747-400 sim at natco true or was it a typo. I think everyone on this board was aware of the -330, but the -400 was news to me this past week.
Scambo
01-10-2010, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
You put in to words what I was not going to lay out just quite yet. I agree with what you have stated 100%. This is exactly how I see it.
The leaks are designed to prep the markets. Having our leaders make a last minute trip says a lot. I still think they are there.
The leaks are designed to prep the markets. Having our leaders make a last minute trip says a lot. I still think they are there.
When are they gonna call me???????? Im waiting for the Guam assignment or NY88.
Thanks
01-10-2010, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
ACL quick question for ya'
Is the rumor of getting a new 747-400 sim at natco true or was it a typo. I think everyone on this board was aware of the -330, but the -400 was news to me this past week.
Scambo
Is the rumor of getting a new 747-400 sim at natco true or was it a typo. I think everyone on this board was aware of the -330, but the -400 was news to me this past week.
Scambo
I think the answer to that question will say a lot about alot of things. I heard about the rumor, but where did the company/union publish this?
01-10-2010, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
ACL quick question for ya'
Is the rumor of getting a new 747-400 sim at natco true or was it a typo. I think everyone on this board was aware of the -330, but the -400 was news to me this past week.
Scambo
Is the rumor of getting a new 747-400 sim at natco true or was it a typo. I think everyone on this board was aware of the -330, but the -400 was news to me this past week.
Scambo
This rumor is true. Expect to see more 744s and 330s. Announcement in six weeks. Meetings with the money men at Boeing have already happened, and the trip to France is in progress.
We're going to need all the sim time and the some.
Look for an additional sim, soon....
Nu
01-10-2010, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
Heyas,
This rumor is true. Expect to see more 744s and 330s. Announcement in six weeks. Meetings with the money men at Boeing have already happened, and the trip to France is in progress.
We're going to need all the sim time and the some.
Look for an additional sim, soon....
Nu
This rumor is true. Expect to see more 744s and 330s. Announcement in six weeks. Meetings with the money men at Boeing have already happened, and the trip to France is in progress.
We're going to need all the sim time and the some.
Look for an additional sim, soon....
Nu
01-10-2010, 12:06 PM
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Later Tom Brady!! Bwaaaaa haaaaaaa haaaaaaa
01-10-2010, 12:09 PM
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Change of pace but what is going on with the JFK terminal situation?
01-10-2010, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Later Tom Brady!! Bwaaaaa haaaaaaa haaaaaaa
I was thinking the same thing!!! That was awesome! Way to go Ravens!!
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