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Old 08-30-2010 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
GO CARDS!
We were doing good, but now we're in a terrible slide. I'm not sure the wild card is even a possibility right now. It's not looking good.
Old 08-30-2010 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
Heyas Bill,

You misunderstand me. I'd LOVE for the 717s and the Saudi MD-90s to show up. It would point to growth and a commitment to the sub-125 seat category that would go a long way to alleviating a lot of the scope angst around here, and because they are just darn good airplanes.

But my point was also that there are alternatives that are less costly already in place...and easier roads that were not taken for the same sort of lift. It would require a rather circuitous route for both the MDs and the 717s to show up, and I'm doubting it will happen.

But I'll happily pay a C note out of ACL's wallet if it does.

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Why my wallet? My wife and kiddo already take most of the money as is. I do not need more help!

I agree, a long shot but it the planets were to align and we were to find a reason to acquire another carrier that may fly them it would make a lot sense. It may also make sense if they bought them too!

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Old 08-30-2010 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg
They already went through that exercise when Midwest was getting ready to sell the 25 717s. They did some due dillegence, hired someone from Airtran to look at a potential training program, and looked to see if the Saudi MD90s could be lumped in there. Then Mexicana and Click got them, and story was over. Now, Mexicana and their whole group (Click, and Mexicana Lite with CRJs) goes down the toilet. Unbelievable to say the least. It all happened within a week or so, from threats to the unions to closing up shop. Delta has got to be looking at some options, like even starting some new (or old) routes back to Mexico to fill in the gaps. Hopefully any new flights won't go directly to our new code share and best buddy Alaska Air. And do we want to give Airtran the opportunity to grab 25 more 717s they could put somewhere other than ATL, like CVG or DTW, or anywhere near our hubs?
Back in Dec. 2008 I was flying a christmas trip with a LCA. We had a long JFK turn and while in the lounge he was talking with a special projects guy who told him we had already signed for 19 of the 717's and were sending a team out to do acceptance inspections. Within weeks the economy was tanking in a big way and they never showed up but went to Mexicana...there were even rumors floating around the the chief 88/90 LC pilot R.F. had already been to school and typed in the 717....

All this and a quarter will not get you a cup of coffee anymore but it could happen, and then again maybe not. I'm just sayin'....
Old 08-30-2010 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
I think you're right, most know to look for that first if the plane fails to pressurize. I wouldn't think they'd swap planes in FLL if it had been that simple. Although I wasn't there and the sucky thing about the lever is like several other things on the plane there is very little difference in switch position between ON and OFF depending on which angle you're looking at it from.

Really you just have to moleste that plane. You know, feel it up. Otherwise, you'll miss something. Its a life lesson... that you shouldn't apply heavily.
It's funny you mention that. We had a plane that we were flying with a deferred APU. When I was doing my preflight of the overhead, I saw that the APU/Fire Cont switch was in OFF/AGENT ARM. The writeup a couple days earlier was that the APU wouldn't crank at all. We brought a mechanic out who reset the switch and the breakers and it miraculously worked!! We looked at the book again and came to the conclusion that one of the rampers on a layover at an outstation shut the aircraft down incorrectly. The plane flew for days without any crews noticing the switch was out of position. There are just WAY too many dang switches in that cockpit. You really do have to molest that plane when preflighting!
Old 08-30-2010 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Dunkin Doughnuts coffee = Red Sox = sucks


GO CARDS!
Go Yankees! Although I wouldn't mind a Cards-Yanks series.
Old 08-30-2010 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by formerdal
...there were even rumors floating around the the chief 88/90 LC pilot R.F. had already been to school and typed in the 717....

All this and a quarter will not get you a cup of coffee anymore but it could happen, and then again maybe not. I'm just sayin'....
The Chief 88/90 LC guy would have already been typed...it's the same as the MD-80/88/90/DC-9 type.

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Old 08-30-2010 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
Go Yankees! Although I wouldn't mind a Cards-Yanks series.
A big "meh" on major league baseball.

Independent baseball is the way to go...why spend mondo money when you can go see the Wichita Wingnuts or the Traverse City Beach Bums.

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Old 08-30-2010 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
The Chief 88/90 LC guy would have already been typed...it's the same as the MD-80/88/90/DC-9 type.

Nu
No, I think he went to the Flight Safety facililty in ATL near the airport and got training for the 717 specifically.
Old 08-30-2010 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
Negative. Johnso's comments were right on the mark. Starbucks is full of fail...that emperor has no clothes. Even the sludge that McD's pumps out is better.

Dunkin Donuts coffee has been touched by the hand of God herself.

Caribou will do in a pinch, tho....

Nu
I agree Starbucks has the worst drip coffee,
but why would anybody drink drip coffee when there's espresso?
It's like picking Bud Light over Warsteiner...

Starbucks has by far the best espresso...
...and espresso is all I drink ;-)

Cheers
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Old 08-30-2010 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
The Chief 88/90 LC guy would have already been typed...it's the same as the MD-80/88/90/DC-9 type.

Nu
Mr. Smarty Pants!

The B-717 can be considered an updated version of the DC-9-34. The two aircraft share the same type rating. The FAA-approved transition course for the B-717 requires 11 training days for a DC-9/MD-80 (analog) pilot to complete training, 9 training days for an MD-88/MD-90 (EFIS/FMS) pilot, and 24 training days for an initial qualification.

source: Flying the B-717-200, you'll like the article, it talks about two NWA DC-9 guys evaluating the 717 back in 2000.
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