slowplay

This was posted on the ALPA forum. If so, it looks like all the work for a 24-17 vote out of a council of 4000 was to tell the MEC to do the job they're already doing....


SUBJECT: Consideration of Compass Representation within the Delta MEC

SOURCE: **********

PROPOSED RESOLUTION:

WHEREAS Compass Airlines is a wholly owned subsidiary of Delta Air Lines, Inc. with a unique representational structure and flow though provisions, and

WHEREAS Compass pilots are now represented by their Delta Local Executive Council Representatives to the Delta Master Executive Council and have the right to run and serve as Local Executive Council Representatives to the Delta MEC, and

WHEREAS Compass pilots have conditional employment rights at Delta Air Lines and Delta pilots have employment rights at Compass under a bilateral flow through agreement which places them in a rational seniority order, and

WHEREAS many routes formerly flown by mainline pilots are now flown by Compass pilots, often using Delta facilities, and

WHEREAS the current economic environment could trigger the employment rights provisions of the Delta PWA, which would place current Delta pilots at Compass, a regional affiliate, and

WHEREAS recent seniority awards suggest that pilots actively employed by the mainline have enhanced standing over pilots who have been displaced to a regional affiliate, and

WHEREAS ALPA’s Executive Council has requested a recommendation from the Delta Master Executive Council on the matter of Compass Representation within the Delta MEC.

THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED the pilots of Council 44 request the Council 44 Representatives present a resolution addressing the following issues at the next regular MEC Meeting:



1. The Delta Master Executive Council should evaluate the economic and professional benefits for Delta pilots under the current structure of Compass Representation within the Delta MEC, the potential benefits and effects of a single seniority list with the pilots of Compass Airlines, and any effect of changing the representational structure at Compass would have on existing employment rights for current Delta pilots.


2. The Delta MEC should make every reasonable effort to communicate to the membership the results of their evaluation of the economic and professional benefits for Delta pilots of maintaining the status quo, creating a single list, and what effect, if any, changing the representational structure of Compass would have on the employment rights of Delta pilots.

3. The Delta MEC should determine the best course of action for the Delta Pilots and make an appropriate recommendation to the ALPA Executive Council. If the Delta MEC determines that it has insufficient time to thoroughly examine these issues prior to the April 14, 2009 ALPA Executive Council meeting, the Delta MEC should consider postponing its recommendation until these issues can be thoroughly examined.

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED Council 44 requests its Representatives report to the Council 44 Pilots the results of the actions requested above in a timely manner.

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED Council 44 request its Representatives seek and consider input from Council 44 pilots on this issue prior to the next Regular MEC meeting.

iaflyer

Dickson said in the JFK meeting that three MD-90s (from Hello airlines in Europe) are coming, but I don't remember a specific timeline. He also said the price on the Chinese ones have dropped, but they are still not at an agreement.

forgot to bid

I think its more like this resolution is telling them to start doing their job, stop being hostile and trying to sweep Compass under the rug and recognize this situation as something worth investigating.

Sad to say, its not something DALPA was already doing or going to do and there were 17 votes against it. Why?!?

And I think out of the 4000 pilots, a lot of the proxies sent in were denied. Anyone have word as to why?

acl65pilot

As with everything politics were involved with this. The goal was to get people to no amend from the floor. It also means that they need to work on this issue and "report back" If the issue is tabled, what happens next?
There is a very strong possibility of this. We will know in a few weeks.


As for the 90's. Three from hello. They will be delivered to VCV and then will require a little work. Those three should be on line in the next few months. As for the Chinese jets. We have in effect negotiated a deal but need to go to central Parliament to get them to approve it.
For now the board has approved up to 35 total MD-90's.

Xray678

No way this resolution sees the light of day. Moak will table it and nothing will come of it. He knows best after all. Just ask him.

acl65pilot

He told a bunch of the guys yesterday.

Fly4hire

I guess the 25 Reps don't get to vote on it?

So they'll table every CPS resolution, then vote to kick em' off the MEC?

Ferd149

Have the reps in MSP changed over yet? Yes, I should know but I've been outta pocket for a bit. Also, any idea where the DTW reps sit on this. DTW can swing a big a big bat.

Ferd

slowplay

Detroit and MSP add up to about the same number of roll call votes combined as Atlanta. For once, there'll have to be consensus among the 25 Reps, as the roll call and small base votes have been diluted with the addition of the additional representatives.

Proxies weren't allowed as this resolution wasn't an agenda item. Had it been an agenda item the attendance probably would have been a lot higher and the results somewhat different. Realizing that different folks can look at a set of facts and come to a different conclusion, it's my opinion that the misinformation spread on this issue by the resolution's proponents has been astounding.

My question is why would anyone vote for a resolution that would add more pilots to a seniority list without owning the flying they supposedly bring? What were the 24 thinking?

It's suspicious when one of the primary proponents of the original resolution was an RJDC initial member. It's suspicious when inaccurate information about the CPZ interview process is proclaimed as fact. It's suspicious when many that support the original resolution came from ASA, CMR and regional airline management.

Hopefully the edited resolution will empower the MEC to conclusively point to the strategic errors the original resolution embodied, and to set a course for all Delta pilots that will address real scope concerns rather than this infection producing piecemeal approach.

acl65pilot

Slow
FWIW, the first order of business is to get new numbers for this. You know that.
You also know that when armed with new numbers this is not blind to the need for a revision to section 1. It is silent, and that was for purpose. It left a lot opened. Why?
Because there were a lot of people that did not want to suppose a single outcome. We agreed to the vagueness of that approach. Fact is that many committees should be formed to look at all aspects positive and negative to the CPS question. It is our due diligence. Any thing else is irresponsible.

The has nothing to do with RJDC. Give it up. It has to do with representation, recapturing of flying, and working towards a better future for all ALPA and DALPA pilots. This is one small step in a marathon. There is no way that this resolution could address half of the issues that need to be addressed about this CPS situation. Hence the reason it is silent on exactly what course, but open to many courses of action.

It is not that the 24 do not get it. It is that they understood to get support it needed to be written that way. A major change was done in the hallways before the resolution was presented.