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Quote: Slow news day.
Am I misreading it? "Frontier is going to use the planes to operate other service as part of a partnership with DAL"?

Do we have a DCI agreement with Frontier? If not, perhaps this is enough for even the densest ALPA Lawyer to finally grow a set a declare RAH as one airline and in violation of Section 1.

Now, if I have misread the whole thing I'll go back to my corner and color. Of course, it could be the reporter has made a mistake in the article.
Quote: How can we ever get rid of 747s? It's the only thing in the advertisements:



Well, 747s and RJs:



You see the problem? I do. No MD88s.
Lol- I've been thinking the same thing. I even had a pax ask why the 747s in all the ads and he's never seen one in ATL. He said it's like Sasquatch.
Quote: Am I misreading it? "Frontier is going to use the planes to operate other service as part of a partnership with DAL"?

Do we have a DCI agreement with Frontier? If not, perhaps this is enough for even the densest ALPA Lawyer to finally grow a set a declare RAH as one airline and in violation of Section 1.

Now, if I have misread the whole thing I'll go back to my corner and color. Of course, it could be the reporter has made a mistake in the article.
They are 70 seaters. Republic is probably transfering them from the Frontier certificate to one of their "Regional" certificates that has an agreement with Delta. IMO, total hogwash! Since Republic now has one seniority list, I'm sure the same pilots will be flying them just under a different certificate. What a shell game!

Denny
Quote: Am I misreading it? "Frontier is going to use the planes to operate other service as part of a partnership with DAL"?

Do we have a DCI agreement with Frontier? If not, perhaps this is enough for even the densest ALPA Lawyer to finally grow a set a declare RAH as one airline and in violation of Section 1.

Now, if I have misread the whole thing I'll go back to my corner and color. Of course, it could be the reporter has made a mistake in the article.
Republic has a choice. They can operate selling their own tickets as Frontier, or codeshare as Midwest, or let Delta deal with sales and make a guaranteed profit as a DCI carrier. Since Frontier is losing money (Bedford does not know the recipe for the secret sauce) those airplanes are being reallocated to Delta where Delta will lose money on them.

They have this flexibility because your union defined this as not your flying in your Section 1. It did not have to be this way, but remember all the calisthenics your MEC went through to show MidWest flying was not Northwest flying? Remember all that hoopla about the Delta MEC defining Compass off the property and E-170 flying not Delta flying either?

We managers think that was funny - yeah you sure proved it was not your work, but now you whine about not having those jobs. Union ... my bald head.

Alter Ego Doug
Quote: Republic has a choice. They can operate selling their own tickets as Frontier, or codeshare as Midwest, or let Delta deal with sales and make a guaranteed profit as a DCI carrier. Since Frontier is losing money (Bedford does not know the recipe for the secret sauce) those airplanes are being reallocated to Delta where Delta will lose money on them.

They have this flexibility because your union defined this as not your flying in your Section 1. It did not have to be this way, but remember all the calisthenics your MEC went through to show MidWest flying was not Northwest flying? Remember all that hoopla about the Delta MEC defining Compass off the property and E-170 flying not Delta flying either?

We managers think that was funny - yeah you sure proved it was not your work, but now you whine about not having those jobs.

Alter Ego Doug
Doug,

Good one. You managers are always one step in front of us. I know the type - as soon as a new rule/reg comes out, you brainstorm a way around it and then you hire PIT BULL lawyers to enforce it. As long as we keep hiring toy poodles, you managers will always win - turds! Double turds!! (lame caddy shack reference) http://www.carlspackler.com/sounds/037.mp3
Quote: Am I misreading it? "Frontier is going to use the planes to operate other service as part of a partnership with DAL"?

Do we have a DCI agreement with Frontier? If not, perhaps this is enough for even the densest ALPA Lawyer to finally grow a set a declare RAH as one airline and in violation of Section 1.

Now, if I have misread the whole thing I'll go back to my corner and color. Of course, it could be the reporter has made a mistake in the article.
The way I read the NMB finding (on STS for RAH when it comes to representation) I see the NMB anazed that RAH is so confident they will not get called out on as being a STS that they have become either sloppy or indifferent in playing the ALPA approved multi-certificate shell game. They're no longer trying to hide the obvious.
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Also, the 747/777 are top of the heap aircraft. Parking them sucks for all. Poop rolls down hill

Jim
It wouldn't if we had longevity pay....
FAA Re-Auth Bill
Shuster Amendment has been removed from the FAA Reauthorization Bill.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-05-20/u-s-airline-pilot-rest-plan-may-advance-with-lawmaker-move-2-.html?cmpid=yhoo
Quote: It wouldn't if we had longevity pay....

I disagree. All longevity pay would do is substitute quality of life for max pay. So now instead of having the 777/747 as the most desirable, you have maybe A320 as most desirable. So now all the junior guy can hold is 747 f/o flying 13 day trips for what, 757 f/o pay? Parking of equipment and any associated reductions would still come in reverse seniority order, regardless of position. I also doubt the company would save money on training, as the whole list realigns from pay to QOL. Just my opinion.

Jim
Quote: It only takes about 30 seconds of watching "her" to know that she doesn't have a clue what she's talking about.
She's a true idiot most of the time. And while I can't stomach to watch the show there was nothing on one night and I ended up stopping on her show as I flipped through the channels. It was hilarious how idiotic her commentary was. (See transcript here, about half way down the page)

She was in Lawrence, Kansas and was making a point about how awful it was that an abortion doctor was shot and killed in the state; that someone would fight against established law by killing an abortionist. In incredible disbelief she talks about how whacked anti-abortionists are saying, "Abortion is legal!" This is not intended to bring up a discussion on abortion--most minds are made up on the issue one way or the other, and a debate here is not going to change anyone's mind. But what was laughable was that she hammered her point home about how proud she was of Kansas and their sense of freedom by citing the plaque nearby that commemorated John Brown. The same John Brown who led the raid on Hapers Ferry where his group killed people in attempt to cause an insurrection against slavery in Virginia. Fortunately, John Brown ended up on the right side of history, but the funny part was Maddow not once saw the hypocrisy of using Brown as a shining example of freedom: Don't take a moral stand and kill those you disagree with unless it's something I agree with; in that case your killing entirely justified. Now that I know she's a Rhodes Scholar I have a lot less respect for Rhodes Scholars.
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