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Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1060333)

according to the DALPA merger folk(s) the pull and plug was not supposed to be used as much as it was.

Who cares, it's over. Time to look forward. I'm happy that we got through the merger and the recession without furloughs. Now we're in a good spot to move forward with our contract. Lets focus on that.

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Originally Posted by hitimefurl (Post 1060541)

Call me confused, but don't all of those things reduce the amount of money ALPA spends out of our dues? Isn't this what everyone has been asking for? Spend less of my money on things like an LEC office and secretary. It sounds pretty damn responsible of ALPA to me. Save money instead of spending it. What a concept.

Um. Our dues are something like 1.8%. I don't like spending money as much as the next guy, but I also believe in State's rights. I do NOT want everything we do being dictated from national. We get enough garbage from there, let's not put all the eggs in that basket. The personal savings would definitely not be worth it.

That being said, where did this rumor originate, and is there ANY truth to it?

question: does EasySwap still work for calculating / checking swap with the pot things? Anyone use it?

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Originally Posted by Launchpad475 (Post 1060545)

Flew with LCA recently told me same thing. They want people to leave above 3500 seniority or something, not sure where they came up w that number.

I told him it sounds like they need to sweeten the deal for more to leave or they would have already done it. He agreed.

So was the LCA 3501?

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Originally Posted by alfaromeo (Post 1060524)

I read the Council 20 letter. A committee was formed at the direction of the Executive Council. They made a report. Then the governing structure will make a decision. There will be a vote. If the C+BL need to be changed then the entire Board of Directors will vote. That is democracy. Tell me what is wrong about that?

Just read the letter. WOW :( Are things that bad?

Is the engine room flooding?

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Originally Posted by 76drvr (Post 1060553)

I agree, pretty low rent comment from FTB

BTW, Where did the swap with friends go? Everything disappeared yesterday.

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Originally Posted by NuGuy (Post 1060499)

Trust, but verify. It's a multi-step process.

I make deals every day. Each one there are pros and cons.

I sure as heck want to know the downsides before I cast a vote. Anything else is irresponsible.

I see that the folks who wanted to end-run the 4 man team didn't get their way at National. Nice to know, however, that they want to get rid of the non-voting reps so that the workload for the remaining two goes up, leading potentially to DTW having the highest rep-to-pilot ratio in ALPA.

Oh, yea, they want to close the local field offices so everything has to go through National. Yippie.

Oh, and this is my fav:

Potential option to replace the non-status representative with an LEC Executive Administrator (EA)....and guess what? NOT ELECTED, APPOINTED!

Anyone else wanting to read this stuff, check out the 9/23 Council 20 update.

Nu

I heard about all of that stuff. Also heard that there was some talk of reworking the dues structure.

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Originally Posted by hitimefurl (Post 1060541)

At first glance yes, but they are also talking about getting rid of the S/T position at each LEC. Would an EA be a pilot and if so would they be on full FPL? To me that sounds like spending more money.

No issue with getting rid of LEC offices, that makes a lot of sense, and a lot of people would choose that over having their dues raised.

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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1060580)

First, can someone post the letter?

The lack of trust is completely legitimate. The way Compass's sale was facilitated is a prime example of our members' democratic direction and policy (requiring study) being acted against. If you want specific names, I've got no problem naming them and their voting record. Your call.

What letter?

Compass's sale was facilitated when the entity was first made during NWA's bankruptcy. Why in the heck would NWA management fight so hard with the pilots to make it separate?

The matter of representation is absolutely a red herring. We have fragmentation language in our contract. Delta could sell 36 Compass jets or 36 767's tomorrow and there is not a thing we could do about either. Read the contract. Whether or not Compass was represented by the Delta MEC or their own MEC had absolutely no bearing whatsoever on the sale of Compass.

Just because you didn't get your way, doesn't mean that policy wasn't followed. What policy was violated? If they only way to earn your trust is to do exactly what you say 100% of the time, then you don't trust anyone.

Never mind ... Nu's right and the dirty laundry does no good on a public forum. If anyone really needs the documentation that shows the TRUTH about what Alpha's been posting, just PM me and I'll steer you towards the relevant documents. Maybe we need to move this debate to the ALPA Board.