If that's true, that's horrible. We are going to hire hundreds per year in a few years. There's no reason these pilots should be seat locked as new hires. I was placed in ANC as a new hire. To this day, I've never been to Alaska. I was able to bid out of there immediately. I strongly disagree with throwing new hires under the bus for our own gain just because they don't work here yet.

Darn "C" key. :rolleyes:

acl65, Sorry to sound cold, but Boo Hoo for them. We had to sit sideways for several years (four in my case) in a base of the company's choosing, and be on the "B" scale for five years. These guys have lots of choices so to be irked about a 12 month freeze seems pretty trivial. I would hardly call it throwing them under the bus as Hockey said.

I got to disagree. Do you really think it's right that Delta spends money training a new hire, just to have that pilot move to a different airplane weeks later? The only people that get a seat lock are pilots who are displaced. I don't consider a new hire to be a displaced pilot. They choose to come here, and then Delta spends good money to train them. I think it's perfectly fair to allow Delta to get some productivity out of a new hire before they spend even more money training them for another aircraft.

Also keep in mind a seat lock is not a base lock.

Another major contract change without memrat?

What did we give up this time?

Before we get too wrapped around the axle on this, perhaps we should wait to see what the LOA says. However, I think it would be prudent to let your reps know that we frankly, shouldn't be in a giving mood.

Waves,

With all due respect, I don't agree with the premise or argument of, "because my generation had to endure hardship, so should the next". I do agree with you, in that a 12-month training freeze/policy wouldn't be "throwing people under the bus" as Hockey44 stated, but to have it, just because "everyone needs to embrace the suck" as a new-hire on property isn't a valid reason.

Fly safe,

GJ

YGTBSM! A voice of reason on this board?:D

Yeah, even if true it's really throwing a guy new hire under the bus...a requirement to stay in the aircraft that he was hired to fly for 12 whole months but with the ability to move a base...and if we're training that much (remember, he's a new hire) he gets out of 23G recovery obligations.

That mythical new hire sure sounds screwed to me...:rolleyes: I'm betting if this reported change is true it will change our new hire applications by...ZERO!

I see nothing wrong with the seatlock... and it's certainly not throwing them under the bus. They just got hired with a carrier with a HUGE amount of retirements coming. I would have been perfectly happy with or without a seatlock on my initial NYC 88 award. I thought it was horribly inefficient that I could bid out of a plane they spent thousands of dollars training me on... and I only got 115 hours in it.

You, however, gained a bit of a reputation with the way you complained about your SO seat. ;) Absolutely amazing.

Don't think I've seen it yet, but Happy Veteran's day guys. To all of you who have served or were parents, siblings, children or friends of Vets. Thanks

Saw a great good news story that I will Share involving a vet and a dog!

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